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Re: '97 UBC - R values for structures with Pendulums

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The Volume II of the '97 UBC Design Manual contains the same example that 
Doug Thompson and Ron Nelson used in the Feb 21, 1998 SEAOSC seminar. A few 
items were clarified, but for the most part it is the same. I have a draft of 
the manual since I was involved in verifying the Cold Form Steel Problem 
(number 3): Here is a list of what should (unless changed) appear in the 
second volume:

Ex 1. Two story (retangular) residence - wood framing
Ex 2. Three story (rectangular) 30-unit Hotel Structure - wood framing
Ex 3. Three story same as #2 with metal stud framing (lateral design only)
Ex 4. Reinforced Concrete wall - 8 story parking garage
Ex 5. Missing from my draft
Ex 6. Missing from my draft
Ex 7. Seven Story Concrete SMRF Building
Ex 8. Tilt-up Building
Ex 9. Masonry Shearwall Building
Ex 10A. Special Concentric Braced Frame
Ex 10B. Ordinary Concentric Braced Frame
Ex 10C. Chevron Braced Frame
Ex 11. Eccentric Braced Frame Building
Ex 12A. Steel Special Moment Resisting Frame building (4 story)
Ex 12B. Steel Ordinary Moment Resisting Frame (4 story) 

Dennis Wish PE

In a message dated 7/2/99 10:54:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, NDZ28(--nospam--at) 

<< 	Bill, as far as I know, on Feb 21, 1998 you (or possibly Doug 
 Thompson) presented a half day seminar where a design example for a two 
 house was presented.  At that same time it was also mentioned that examples 
 for the design of 14 other structures would be shortly released.  A year and 
 a half later, we are still waiting.  Is there a good reason that volumes 2 
 and 3 of the seismic design manuals will not be published until late August 
 and October?  This is not meant to be a personal attack on you or Doug 
 Thompson after all the time and valuable effort that you have devoted to the 
 committee.   Rather  it is a reminder to the seismology committee that we 
 practicing engineers with small offices, designing good structures (mostly 
 wood framed), and trying to make a living at it as well.  Most of us are 
 still having major problems trying to figure out this complex '97 code. (Not 
 the least of which are plan checkers who are also not knowlegeable in the 
 	But, before I digress too far,  I'll get back to my original point 
 which is; why has it taken so long to publish what could have been a great 
 design tool for most of us.  What good will it do us to have design manuals 
 released (hopefully) 2-4 months after the code is already enacted?  Or does 
 it have something to do with the fact that most of  the '97 UBC code authors 
 have still not figured out how to present a complete set of calculations for 
 a wood structure i.e.: custom two story house, 3 or 4 story apartment 
 building, small commercial building, etc., due to an overly complex code 
 was enacted without forethought to its complexity  and without fully working 
 out examples or design manuals for us, the practicing engineers, to refer 
to? >>