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• To: "'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org'" <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
• Subject: RE: Furniture Live Load
• From: William Keil <WJK(--nospam--at)brph.com>
• Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:23:52 -0400

```To confirm 40 psf as a design value:  Sum the total weight of the framing,
people, mattress, linens, etc. and then divide by the area of a king size
mattress.  For example 40 psf x 6' x 7' = 1680 pounds.  Average weight for
two people = 2 x 200 = 400 pounds.  This appears to be a reasonable
justification.

William J. Keil, P.E.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rackmales, David N NAN02
[mailto:David.N.Rackmales(--nospam--at)nan02.usace.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 8:55 AM
To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org'

on the floor as per my original message:

>
> Is there a resource listing Live Loads on furniture? That is, what's the
> loading on a chair, a table, etc. I'm designing a loft bed using 40 psf
for
> the LL. Any suggestions?
>

The loft I mentioned will most likely be situated on a basement floor. The
customer-specified geometry of the bed comprises two king-sized mattresses.
In the absence of any specified codes for furniture design, I've used 40 psf
to design the loft bed. The structure would be eight feet high and
constructed of commercially-available (i.e., Home Depot, et al.) lumber.

What I need to know is if 40 psf is too conservative a loading. Or is it not
enough? Mr. Bart Needham earlier suggested an impact factor of two, which I
can understand as jumping on the bed, falling on the bed, etc., etc. should
be considered. For duration of load factor I used 1.0, though as the
structure would be used for sleeping and would only come under use, what,
eight hours a day?

The structure can safely be built with 2X8s, 2X4s, 4X4 columns (with lateral
supports), plywood, etc. with the 40 psf LL. I am simply looking for a good
resource to back up my assumptions; that is, does anyone know of a "timber
furniture design handbook"?

Thank you.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Seaintonln(--nospam--at)aol.com [SMTP:Seaintonln(--nospam--at)aol.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, July 27, 1999 20:49
> To:	seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject:	Re: Furniture Live Load
>
> The live load developed by code considers furniture and any or all
> non-permanent loads applied to a floor. Even a waterbed will not exceed
> the
> 40 psf live load requirment (considering 8 pounds per gallon, if you run
> the
> numbers the distribution is much less than 40 psf on most floors). By
> comparion, furniture loads are very light unless you are trying to place
> something like a vault or massive save in the center of a room.
> The most serious problems associated with live loads from my experience is
> in
> office buildings where file cabinets are concentrated in the center of the
>
> floor spans and where the live loads can be easily overloaded depending on
>
> the capacity of the cabinet.
>
> I may not be answering your question - so, if you can be more specific
> possibly we can help advise you.
>
> Dennis
>

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