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- To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
- Subject: RE: Rigid vs. flexible
- From: "Martin W. Johnson" <MWJ(--nospam--at)eqe.com>
- Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:53:56 -0700
Dennis said the following: >Therefore, we must work within the constraints of the real world > - those designers, owners and architects that are unwilling to comprimise > aesthetics for strength. Yes, the owners and architects are not going to change their demands on either configuration or engineering fees until there is no engineer left who is willing to say , "yes I'll do it your way for the work." I have in the past been paid more to peer review a design of residentail homes than the design engineer was paid to design it. But then I actually visited the site to make sure is was built correctly, and the design engineer didn't. The field had only about half a clue about how it should be built, which tells us something about what the most important factor in the design of small light-framed construction should be (as opposed to analysis concerns). But the real problem is that, the designers of these small jobs aren't being paid enough to EITHER consider different analysis approaches for diaphragms, or to see that it gets built correctly. So we are missing the mark BOTH ways. Another subject. You failed to mention another member of the party - FEMA. I have heard (rumor) that, after we had that series of earthquakes a few years ago, they said that the rest of the country is getting tired of paying Californians for earthquake damage, and if we couldn't get our building codes "right" by ourselves they'd find a way to do it. That way, of course, is NEHRP, which is represented in equal measure by engineers, academicians, and industy interests. I have seen no room for "virtual committess" in that group. And there is a very real liklihood that seismic codes beyong IBC2000 will be controlled by something that very much resembles this group, because the writing of seismic provisions is no longer going to relegated to a bunch of Californians - it will be a national process. A major task for SEAOC will be to maintain a voice within this new process. And despite the descriptions of high-minded engineers, I have seen the seismology committee work, and it works. There are plenty of representatives from industry groups who fight very hard to keep things at a practical level, and the engineers are very experienced and (mostly) practical-minded. Regards, Martin.
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