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# Re: CORROSION OF JOIST HANGERS AND ROOF

• To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
• Subject: Re: CORROSION OF JOIST HANGERS AND ROOF
• From: Roger Turk <73527.1356(--nospam--at)compuserve.com>
• Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:43:17 -0400

```Ben Yousefi wrote:

>>I'll put in my 2 cents in regard to a possible root cause:

"Ponding"

Based on my personal experience of reviewing plans, and the observations in
the field, I believe one of the most overlooked areas of building design is
roof drainage. Architects are normally responsible for specifying the slope
and showing the drain and overflow details and their locations. However, they
are not apparently very keen on this issue. Many times the slope is not even
defined on the drawings. Also, until the 88 edition, the UBC did not even
specify a minimum roof slope. Technically you could have designed the roof
completely flat and still complied with the code. (the exact language was:
"Roof systems not designed to support accumulated water shall be sloped for
drainage" ).

I have made it a habit of paying particular attention to this during the
review process. My suggestion to all structural engineers is to get proactive
on this issue and make sure the architect has addressed roof the drainage
properly. Keep in mind that the even the minimum slope of 1/4 inch per foot
may not still not be adequate, 1/2 inch per foot is much more functional.<<

Ben,

Several years ago I developed the following equation to approximate the
minimum roof slope necessary to provide positive drainage:

roof slope = (min. end slope) + 4 * d/L

where:

(min. end slope) is the slope desired/required at the low end of the
span/bay so that water will not pond.

d = deflection of structural member, or sum of deflections of *all*
structural members in a bay under the loads being considered.

L = span between supports in the direction of slope. (units
consistent with "d").

For a (min. end slope) of 1/8"/ft (.125"/12" = .0104)

the equation becomes:

roof slope = 0.0104 + 4 * d/L

If the structural members span in only one direction, the direction of the
slope, and the deflection is limited by the common criteria of L/360, L/240,
and L/180, the minimum roof slopes become:

1/4"/ft for L/360
3/8"/ft for L/240
7/16"/ft for L/180

Local amendment to the UBC has changed the minimum roof slope in Tucson and
Pima County to 3/8"/ft, unless otherwise justified by engineering
calculations.  I have seen apartment complexes with (supposedly) dead flat
roofs where maintenance personnel put submersible pumps on the roofs after
each rain.

A. Roger Turk, P.E.(Structural)
Tucson, Arizona

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