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I sure would like to see that become common in my lifetime. But it
usually depends upon the building owner / developer, who usually give
more importance to aesthetics than than engineering contributions. Here
in the Philippines, CEs are proud to say that a building would not
become a reality without a CE, but it can be a reality without an

Roy Sharif M. Sison, RCE

> Perhaps the public would be better served if the
> structural engineer was the leader and hired the "architect"
> as a consultant.  Is this happening anywhere?
> Paul Irwin