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- To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
- Subject: Re: Compression flange bracing
- From: Rick.Drake(--nospam--at)fluor.com
- Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:12:13 -0700
The concept of bracing the compression flange of a flexural member is intended to provide external boundary conditions for the lateral torsional buckling limit state (failure mode for ASD types). The brace must be strong enough and stiff enough prevent the entire beam cross-section from either twisting or laterally displacing. The question you need to ask is whether or not the roof plates are heavy enough and stiff enough with enough normal force to prevent the compression flange from twisting or laterally displacing. I don't think that friction would be your first choice as a load path for the required bracing stiffness and strength. However, we can't ignore the economics of the situation also. If a tank roof rafter actually overcame friction and laterally torsionally buckled, its flexural capacity would be suddenly reduced and the roof system would sag. However, if the rafter end connections are strong enough, the rafters would now start to act like cable structure tension members. The situation would be stable, although with greater vertical displacements. Is this acceptable to your clients? Another way to look at it is the famous list server line "Where are the bodies?" Have any AWWA designed roof structures "failed" because of the current design procedure? If not, the curent design procedure is fit for purpose. Rick Drake, SE Fluor Daniel, Aliso Viejo *********************************** "Lutz,James" <JLUTZ(--nospam--at)earthtech.com> on 10/29/99 08:33:16 AM Please respond to seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org cc: (bcc: Rick Drake/AV/FD/FluorCorp) Subject: Compression flange bracing The issue of compression flange bracing has come up in my practice on numerous occasions with respect to rafters supporting the roofs of steel water storage tanks. Typical practice is to not weld the rafters to the roof plates, so compression flange bracing is only provided by friction of the roof diaphragm. This is specifically permitted by AWWA D100, which allows rafters to be designed as if continuously braced. The argument I get into when reviewing the work of other designers is that I think UBC (AISC Specifications) should overrule the AWWA procedure. The UBC permits the use of "approved national standards" (e.g. AWWA) for the design of ground storage tanks (UBC 1634.4), but I read this as applicable to seismic design only. In all other aspects, the UBC should govern as is. Anybody have any thoughts on the validity of counting friction for lateral support? I can't imagine AWWA recommending this design approach without some sort of basis.
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