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Bogdan-

You are YOURSELF!!  And everything else follows
after that.  Think long and hard about that. 
Ultimately, who you are is 90% of the equation you
are looking for.  The rest is small potato's.

Lynn

Bogdan wrote:
> 
> Dear Sirs,
> 
>         yesterday night, being a little upset, instead of going to bed, I wrote a message : "how's your love life?".
>         This morning, when the birds are singing everywhere (to prevent freezing), and when the sun shines (even if I cannot see it because of those rainy clouds), I was surprised to find my message inbox full filled with your answers; thank you very much, I'm really grateful... I already feel better (can anyone tell me how to knot this bloody rope ?). Jocking ...
>         Reading your messages I was trying to imagine who's the author, how he thinks, so on... And I've had a revelation: there's a lot of YOUNG peoples watching this exchange of messages, being greedily to achieve new ideas about how is to be a structural engineer, or how such a man thinks !
>         Frankly, this was (still is) one of my reasons when submitted to this chat list; but I was a little bewildered: the most part of messages are about "what's the value for rho when...", or "who can tell me how to calculate...", or, the worst, "how could I modelise a structure..". It's unacceptable!
>         I am sick and tired of rules I have to follow; more and more, ENGINEERING comes closer to lawers activity, trammelled by stupid rules created for protecting the incompetence of some self-called "engineers", who simply thought it is more simple to become an engineer than a medical doctor ( wrong: as a bad doctor you kill one man a time, but as a structural engineer you can kill thousands; don't belive me? watch the results of Turkish EQ and you will understand!);but we're swerved.
>         My problem referes to the REAL meaning of being an engineer.
>         Richard and Audra say "Good engineers are always needed -maybe not fully respected - but needed", while mr.Gerard Madden (who talks unacceptable dirty to his wife) recomandes me to consider moving to a country that appreciates my talents and skills, but he "wouldn't suggest the USA because here, the architects do all the work, right guys".
>         THAT'S THE POINT !!!
>         Too many engineers, structural engineers, forget who they are and why they are what they are; I don't say not to give to Cesar what's Cesar's, it is true the architects are necessary (essential) for a building design, but they have to realise that structural design is not a handicraft job, but an artistic one, exactly like their's (being well-known they considere themselves artists; but they only...). We should remember them that civil and structural engineering separated from architecture, when the architects couldnt face the increasing economical problems...
>         If we want to be considered like that, we should, first of all, respect ourselfs; we should not base our skills on simple calculations, because, due to computers bloom, the architects could belive we are be replaceble; and do not blame only computers, but also ourselves! !
>         For example, if I want to come to USA, how many exams do I have to pass and how many new rules do I have to learn to design structures who will face the same physical phenomenons encountered not only in my country, but all over the world?
>         What about architects?
>         We are the worst ennemy for us ! They are not for them ! Are they for us ?
>         WHO'S WHO ?