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- Subject: RE: (Titles mean something!) Paul C.
- From: Dave Adams <davea(--nospam--at)laneengineers.com>
- Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:49:36 -0800
Are we talking about "this list" or "that list", or the profession itself? I would think "Engineer in Training, specializing in the design of structures" would decribe the person of your paragraph just fine. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Crocker [mailto:PaulC(--nospam--at)ckcps.com] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 10:24 AM To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org Subject: Re: WHO'S WHO? (Titles mean something!) The SEAs and ASCE have a lot of work ahead of them before this attitude will be practical in anything other than a technical/legal setting. To use medical doctors as an example, most members of the general public have an understanding (or at least a general concept) of the difference between an intern, a resident, and a doctor. They do not understand the difference between an EIT, a PE, and an SE. Unlike a medical doctor, the average person does not visit an engineer even once in a life time, let alone every time they catch a cold. There are no high drama television shows about any sort of engineering; no actors or actress portraying fit, attractive engineers. If someone in a casual setting asks you what you do, and you say that you are "an engineering in training working in an office that specializes in structural engineering and doing some tasks, under the direct supervision of a licensed structural engineer, that resemble structural engineering but differ from it for important legal reasons, and with a little more experience will be a professional engineer again in the same position, but a couple years after that will be a structural engineering," then goodness, even the eyes of a technical professional would glaze over. Certainly this individual would be way out of line and disrespectful of the system to describe themselves as an "SE" or a "Licensed Structural Engineer", but there must be some happy medium. This situation is not helped by the fact that most other fields of engineering do not has as clearly established title/liscense procedure. I have friends who are aerospace and mechanical engineers who will never have or need a license. Even within our modern world (not needing to look back at the historical founders of the profession), there are many fine "structural engineers" who live and practice overseas and will never have any sort of licensee because their nations do not require them. How do the rules of etiquette apply to them in the casual (not legally binding or stamped and signed) discussions of this list? Paul Crocker
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