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I'm amazed that STAAD still exists.  One would hope that such an unreliable
program would be driven from the marketplace.  Structural engineers, of all
people, should demand quality tools.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott, William N. [mailto:William.Scott(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 2:30 PM
To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)'
Subject: RE: engineering software

We have STADD and agree with the issues raised below.

We are going to get a network license for RISA, which covers most of our
design issues and are seriously evaluating SAP 2000.

I did get good technical support from STADD, but felt that I spent too much
of my client's money debugging programming errors.

-----Original Message-----
From: Caldwell, Stan [mailto:scaldwell(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 9:18 AM
To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)'
Subject: RE: engineering software


If a company has no intention of ever using a software program again, it
makes no sense to continue paying for it.  Basically, I encountered a near
mutiny.  Either we discontinued using STAAD, or all of my engineers were
going to quit.  Essentially, there were three issues:

1.  Does the software perform as advertised and give reliable results?

2.  Is the technical support useful, or merely rude?

3.  How many times a day should an engineer have to reboot his/her PC due to
a crash?

STAAD was sacrificed in favor of keeping the engineers.  That is about as
specific as I care to be on this forum.  As a group, we are very pleased
with the software that I recommended earlier today, as well as with a number
of other programs.


Stan R. Caldwell, P.E.
Dallas, Texas

Run, Ron, Run!  Watch Ron run!
ABC TV , 11/13/99, 2:38 PM CST

-----Original Message-----
From: dave.angelotti(--nospam--at)
[ mailto:dave.angelotti(--nospam--at)
<mailto:dave.angelotti(--nospam--at)> ]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 11:35 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: engineering software

Stan writes:

<<We also have multiple STAAD licenses, but stopped using the software a
couple of years ago and intentionally let the maintenance agreements lapse.

Could you elaborate as to WHY you let them lapse??  inquiring minds want to