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I think we are always on the quest for the simplest yet most productive
standard. With Autocad, the test is whether or not the full Layer list
(i.e., S-Fndt-Slab-Txt) can fit within the width of the pull down menu's.
It's a question of time to search.
While we are on the subject, does anyone know a way to change the width of
the pull-down layer menu in Autocad? There use to be a small shareware
program that allowed you to change the width of any Windows compatible pull
down menu or list - or would set it to the widest text in the list.
I know this can be done when creating a List button in Visual Basic, but I
don't know if you can access or change the menu's in Autocad.

It does not sound like you are using Autocad 2000. The Architectural Desktop
(ADT)is a very worthwhile package - containing remnants of the Softdesk S8
package. You can create Content Sheets - drawings that contain layer
definitions, text and dimension styles, blocks and essentially all objects
that occur in every job. You can even use other drawings.
If you use a drawing from your client, rather than load their layer
standards you can simply drag and drop their layers into your drawing along
with fonts, and other styles.

I have to admit that the Autocad 2000 ADT2 package caused me to relearn many
of my drafting skills. Model and Paperspace made little sense to me in the
past but I don't see how I ever did without it now.

So, back to the original topic. I am looking for easy to interpret layering
standards that I can apply and work into an automation tool (Layer Key's for
insertion of block objects).


-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Turk [mailto:73527.1356(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 7:43 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Autocad Layering Standards for Structura


No matter how you set up your layer standards, *someone* that you are doing
job for will have something different.  The AIA has an humongous layering
system, but I'll bet that few architects comply 100 percent with that
system.  For government work, however, you had better follow their layer

In order to account for individual preferences concerning layers, layer
names, colors, line types, etc., and to keep the prototype drawings free
umpteen hundred unused layers, I have set up layer lists, with my layering
system in the list, MYLAYERS.LST.  Client layer lists would be: JSMITH.LST,
XYDOT.LST, COENGR.LST, etc.  I set my layers with a little LISP routine,
SL.LSP, and the first time I use it in a session, it asks what layer list I
want to use, defaulting to MYLAYERS.LST.  If I need a layer during a
session that isn't on the list, I can create that layer, add it to the
list, or just use it for that drawing.  Since I don't like to type long
names (and hate scrolling down a list looking for the right layer even
my layer names are usually less than 4 or 5 characters.  For layer names
you used in your post, aliases could probably be set up.

A. Roger Turk, P.E.(Structural)
Tucson, Arizona

Dennis Wish wrote:

>>I have started to work up a layer standard for my use. My intent is to use
the standard to help automate drafting tasks.
I never thought of a layer standard as an important issue - figuring each
office works up their own. However, when sharing drawings I find that the
number of layers that combine can be staggering.
I am interested in seeing what other have worked up as a structural
engineering standard. Mine follows this format:
Where Sx is structural level 'X' (1,2,3,etc.)

I am interested in what others have done and any programing tips you have
that help you automate drawings. For example, I am thinking of creating a
button to draw a slab outline that will simplify the process of changing to
the correct layer without going through 50 or more layers each time. If
others have automated tasks like this I would appreciate sharing the
information so that we can all learn from it.