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While I hope that you and others on the list don't mean that you are 
"liable" when you say that you are "liable," I really don't know what you 
mean.  Too many people flippantly toss around the phrases, "accepting 
liability," and, "am liable," that it would appear to be second nature to 
answer, "yes," if and when they are asked if they are "liable."  Does it have 
to be, "I know what you mean, but you don't mean what you say?"

What is a person supposed to "know" if they hear you say to your 
wife/husband, girl-/boyfriend, that you are going to "kill them tonight," 
when you really mean that you are going to (planning to) make mad, violent 

Discussion on this list can go on ad nauseam if someone uses the words, 
"cement" when meaning concrete, "dirt" instead of soil, etc., but there is 
little or no discussion about misuse of important words, like, "liable."

Let's get the word, "liable" out of our vocabulary!

I think that you made the right decision concerning the project.

A. Roger Turk, P.E.(Structural)
Tucson, Arizona

Oshin Tosounian wrote:

>>In a message dated 2/9/2000 8:10:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
73527.1356(--nospam--at) writes:

<< First of all, I would not accept liability for anything before an event 
 occurred.  I accept *responsibility* for my plans and specifications and 
 contend that I am not liable for anything until a court determines liability.


You know what I meant. We're not lawyers. That's why I have chosen to be an 
engineer. It goes without saying that one is not liable until a loss has 
occurred and he/she is found to be at fault.

I have already informed the architect that I was not interested. I rather do 
another project for that same fee knowing it's going to be built once, and I 
have a lot of those. :-)

Thanks to all who shared their thoughts.<<