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RE: Trivia - Where did the term Kip come from?

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The letter K is a metric symbol for 1000.

The old English system used the letter M for 1000.  I see this used in a lot
of financial reports today when accountants talk about income in $100M.  It
seems to imply millions but the small print indicates thousands of dollars.

I think Kip sounds better than Mip!

-----Original Message-----
From: Kipp Martin [mailto:KAMartin(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 10:05 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Trivia - Where did the term Kip come from?

I sometimes wonder if, with a name like mine, my parents preordained me to
be a structural engineer.

Several people have written in saying that the term kip is a bastard
combination of metric and English units.  I'm not convinced that the term
"kilo" is necessarily strictly a metric term.  The term 'kip" for 1000 lbs.
has been in use in this country for a very long time, probably before most
people even knew there was a metric system.  Other uses of the term "kilo"
support this. $1 K for $1000 has been around awhile.  The word "century"
meaning 100 years probably comes form Latin.  Decade means 10 years.  These
terms were around before the SI system was developed, but they use "metric"
terms "centa" and "deca".  So is "kilo" really a metric term?

Just a thought.

--Kipp A. Martin, P. E.
  Portland, Oregon