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Thanks Dan,
My ISP is Earthlink and I never thought to ask if they had a DSL service in
the area. I received the offer from GTE who is my telco. I need to learn
more about this technology as I thought that it was dependent on the phone
company and had no idea that I might get the same service for less from my
current ISP.
Thanks again,

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Vines [mailto:dan(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 1:40 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: Comp: Networking the Intelligent Home


It seems as though you have run across what is probably the most frustrating
thing about DSL:  availability and pricing in your area.

I don't recall from your original post who your local telco or provider is,
but that simple detail can make your costs vary wildly.  In Atlanta, I have
DSL thru Mindspring (oops!  that's Earthlink now) for $49.00 per month.  The
same service is avaliable thru BellSouth for $59.00 (I used them until the
Mindspring deal came along.)  With either of these plans, you get ISP
service.  I have never heard of someone offering the line w/o it.  Also, it
is ridiculous to charge an extra $20 or so in order to be able to use the
phone line at the same time.  That is one of DSL's biggest selling points
other than the speed.  Also, are the speeds they quote "guaranteed"?  Most
"residential" providers only quote "best effort" speeds.  For example, mine
is 1.5 Mbps, but I'm getting around half of that.  To get a guaranteed
throughput, I'd have to change providers and pay around $150 per month.  Too
rich for my blood.

There are certain markets in the country that are getting faster service for
even less.

For those prices and services, I might be tempted to wait the market out or
look again at a cable modem.

Good luck

-----Original Message-----
From: SEConsultant [mailto:seconsultant(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 4:15 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: Comp: Networking the Intelligent Home

Thanks Bill,
As Ron Hill also noted, there is a degree of vulnerability to using any full
time connection. I am aware of this and had done sufficient research to find
BlackIce which is a software that sets up a firewall which prevents (reviews
claim very effectively) access from the outside.
I had already intended to purchase the software.

That is, until I read a post by Stan Caldwell which made me very concerned
about using DSL. It seems we need to investigate what we get for the $32.00
per month. As Stan pointed out:

1. The $32.50 or Bronze service provides a 768/128 service which may make
video conferencing difficult (although I have a need for a 30 frames per
second type of video using an inexpensive camera like the one Earthlink is
offering to their clients).
2. The service does not include an ISP partner - which means maintaining my
Earthlink account or paying an additional $20.00 per month for GTE's
3. To use the DSL line concurrently with the phone line costs an additional
$22.00 (+/-) per month

The cost rises considerably to about $75.00 per month on the low end and
%95.00 for good video.

On the other hand, it this really reduces our typical $150.00 plus long
distance bill each month, then it will be worth the cost (my parents, two
step-daughters and four grandchildren live in Chicago and my Son now in

Thanks again for the information,

-----Original Message-----
From: Polhemus, Bill [mailto:wlpolhemus(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 6:27 AM
To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)'
Subject: RE: Comp: Networking the Intelligent Home

I have two PCs at home connected to a hub which is uplinked to a DSL
"modem". For about six weeks I was unwittingly vulnerable to prying eyes.

Then I checked out:

I followed the fairly straightforward guidelines and am now feeling pretty
secure. This guy can cheaply and quickly get you walled off from the net. I
spent $40 for BlackIce (although I may be moving to the freeware product he
touts on his page), rejiggered my network to where it is NETBEUI internally
only, and so far as I can tell everything's hunky-dory.

I urge anyone who is or will be going DSL or cable modem to check out this
site, and "probe your ports". Do it frequently (as he says he is constantly
updating the "fierceness" of his probing routines as new techniques come

FWIW, my little home site now registers STEALTH! according to his probe.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Hill [mailto:ronhill(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 8:16 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: Comp: Networking the Intelligent Home


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