Possibly you could specify a "KCS" joist rather than an "SP" joist.
Then you could submit a list for fabrication. Only need for drawings is for
erection and record.
From: Polhemus, Bill <wlpolhemus(--nospam--at)sbinfra.com>
To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org' <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Date: Friday, March 03, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Lead time for steel JOISTS
>In this case we're talking about maybe a dozen joists here. The only
>"difficult" part is the three "SP" joists, which of course we can't detail
>We're not going to do the shop drawings, period. And I think this job is
>small to worry about "lead time".
>From: John Riley [mailto:jpriley485(--nospam--at)peoplepc.com]
>Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 9:32 AM
>Subject: Re: Lead time for steel JOISTS
>In my experience, with steel joists the bottle neck is in the drafting
>phase. Evidently the manufacturers do not have the manpower to cover the
>peaks. If you do the shop drawings yourself, which isn't difficult, you
>dramatically affect the delivery time.
>John P. Riley
>Blue Grass, Iowa
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Polhemus, Bill <wlpolhemus(--nospam--at)sbinfra.com>
>Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 8:51 AM
>Subject: RE: Lead time for steel JOISTS
>This brings up another question.
>We just had a contractor inform us that a job that we put out to bid for a
>private-sector client, which has some light roof joists in a small, single
>story new building (the other, larger existing building is just interiors)
>are "long lead items" and suggested that we change our design to show
>CHANNELS for the roof support beams.
>The joists I'm showing are like 12K3s, with 19'-0" spans.
>How the heck is that a "long lead item" unless there's something I don't
>From: Alan Howell [mailto:ahowell(--nospam--at)qualicosteel.com]
>Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 7:57 AM
>Subject: RE: Lead time for steel
>In reply to Randy Diviney message:
>Yes, there is still a major problem with the availability of most all
>structural shapes, with no relief or end in sight. At this point, shapes
>that we mill order in March/April may not be available until June/July, and
>that is not a certainty. We have had to wait as long as five months for
>shapes here recently.
>Qualico Steel Company, Inc.
>P.O. Box 149
>Webb, AL 36376
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