# Re: Concrete bearing Edge Distance

• To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
• Subject: Re: Concrete bearing Edge Distance
• From: Jake Watson <jwatson(--nospam--at)inconnect.com>
• Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 07:35:37 -0700
```Chanel1096(--nospam--at)aol.com wrote:
>
> The info in PCI is very close to the info in ACI318 section 10.17 so I will
> give some more detail as to my question.
> The question comes from a residential building where there is a steel beam
> bearing on a concrete wall.  The problem is that the beam only bears ~1.5" on
> the wall. We are fixing the bearing problem but that is where my question
> comes in.  How do you determine how much bearing length you need for the beam
> on concrete based on the edge distance?
>
> -Bill King, EIT
>
Your an E.I.T. like myself so I will assume your using LRFD.  In volume
2 of your manual there is a sample problem discussing exactly what your
talking about.  I don't have the page number in front of me though.  If
you look at the bottom of the uniform beam loading table (not charts) in
volume 1, you will see lots of Rn style numbers.  The first one is shear
(phi*Vn) then I believe the next 2 are some sort of Rn (see sections
K1.3 and K1.4).  Those go into empirical formulas for determining things
like web crippling, yielding at the face of support, etc. Track down
where those numbers are used.
Some other things to check: crushing of concrete (enough baseplate
area?), baseplate design.  Also, as a side note: if the beam will see
any thermal change, use slotted holes to attach it to the wall.  If the
beam expands or contracts because of temperature and is fixed to the
wall, it will move or simply break the wall.
If you need more help, email me privately and I will send you a MathCad
sheet in HTML that will work a sample problem for you.

Best of luck,
Jake Watson, E.I.T.
Salt Lake City, UT

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