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Although the AIA Contract and Instruction to Bidders documents require that 
the Contractor list his/her sub-contractors and material suppliers "as soon 
as practicable" after the contract award, there is no requirement for them to 
be listed prior to the award of contract.  There is, of course, the provision 
that sub-contractors not be replaced without approval.

However, I am aware of at least one architect that requires/required bidders 
to include a list of their sub-contractors with their bid.  The list is to 
be provided in a separate sealed envelope which would not be opened until 
after the award of contract.  The envelopes from unsuccessful bidders would 
be returned unopened.

A. Roger Turk, P.E.(Structural)
Tucson, Arizona

Bill Polhemus wrote:

>>This is true, PRE-Award. But the contract is a powerful instrument. If the
sub list isn't in the contract, as part and parcel of the contract, you will
(IMO) pay bloody h*ll getting such an "understanding" to stand up in court.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kestner [mailto:jkestner(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 9:08 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Bidding ethics Related

Let him know (in front of the Owner) that when he signs the
contract, the sub list is considered part of his contract (make sure
that is also stated in your spec.).<<