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But, Ben, it's a PITA to incorporate the errata into the original document.

Bill Allen, S.E. (CA #2607)
Laguna Niguel, CA

||-----Original Message-----
||From: Yousefi, Ben [mailto:Ben.Yousefi(--nospam--at)]
||Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 1:32 PM
||To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)'
||Subject: RE: Seismic Design Manual - Vol. 2.
||Just a point of clarification. The review process by 
||membership at large may
||have been a voluntary process, but the folks who wrote the original
||document, as far as I know are getting paid. 
||In regard to your suggestion, I think it is good idea to put 
||the errata, as
||it becomes available on the web site, not the whole document. 
||This way SEAOC
||will be protecting their interest and at the same time the 
||users will get up
||to date information on each problem.
||Ben Yousefi, SE
||San Jose, CA
||	-----Original Message-----
||	From:	Attila Beres [SMTP:Attila.Beres(--nospam--at)]
||	Sent:	Friday, May 12, 2000 11:55 AM
||	To:	Seaint Listserver posting
||	Cc:	Constantine Shuhaibar; Andrew Vidikan
||	Subject:	Seismic Design Manual  -  Vol. 2.
||	Andy,
||	I think that you are right in finding it appalling (substitute
||whatever word you like) that a seminal publication like this 
||is not released
||	At the same time (my-fellow Cornellian) buddy 
||Constantine pointed
||out correctly that it was a volunteer effort for the most 
||part (e.g. do not
||expect much speed in the process). BTW I one of the several dozens of
||engineers reviewing some of the more bug ridden drafts of 
||some examples of
||Vol.1 and 2. and could see first hand how difficult to get 
||people to invest
||their time doing this. 
||	I think it would be great to find alternative sources to finance
||this (pharmaceutical companies are routinly spending a fortune for
||semi-promo presentation dinners at the Beverly Hills Hotel or 
||the Regent
||Wilshire, and inviting non-MD-spouses like me). So far I was 
||able to get
||some Subway sandwiches for our staff when we have in-house seminars by
||vendors of various building products :)
||	As an alternative, I would suggest to put the whole 
||Manual and the
||forthcoming issues on the SEAOC web site (even in a draft 
||format) and assing
||a custodian to each example to make changes as people comment on.
||	While, this would speed up the process, it would strip SEAOC the
||revenue from the sales. And then there are some issues 
||regarding who and
||when allowed to make changes...(I might be a bit naive)
||	Attila Beres, PhD, PE
||	Project Engineer
||	Robert Englekirk Consulting Structural Engineers, Inc.
||	Englekirk & Sabol Consulting Structural Engineers, Inc.
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