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Say it ain't so.  

Your contributions will be missed.  I hope the "immediate future" is short,
and you will return to the list soon.

Harold Sprague

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Dennis S. Wish [SMTP:dennis.wish(--nospam--at)]
> Sent:	Wednesday, May 24, 2000 10:16 PM
> To:	SEAINT Listservice
> Subject:	Note from Dennis Wish - resignation from SEA and List
> To all of my friends on the SEA International Listservice:
> It is with serious thought and great trepidation that I announce that I
> will
> no longer be supporting SEA as a paid member. I have also decided - at
> least
> for the immediate future - to unsubscribe from the Listservice.
> I recently launched a website (see the last part of this message) devoted
> to
> residential construction which will require a great deal of time to get up
> and running. My goal is to begin educating the public and uniting
> professionals - something I believe is not possible with SEA or NAHB.
> Resignation from SEA
> I have had strong differences of opinion with the policy makers of SEAOC.
> I
> feel that the problems, known by most members, are insurmountable.
> It is now just about one year since the '97 UBC was adopted and, in my
> opinion, virtually nothing has been accomplished. The lack of interest by
> other than a very small percentage of the dues paying members is assumed
> approval of the actions of SEAoSC an SEAOC policy makers and seismology
> committee. I personally believe that our dues are our only real means left
> to demonstrate dissatisfaction by those unwilling to voice an opinion. I
> can
> not, in fair conscience, continue to support an organization that does not
> represent small office design needs or protect us from potential
> litigations
> caused by ambiguities in their work.
> SEAINT Listservice
> I've spent a great many years volunteering my efforts for what I believed
> to
> be for the good of our profession. Shafat and I were one of the first to
> see
> the technical importance of the Internet to our profession. SEAOSC had the
> foresight supported our conviction by the purchase of the hardware. I am
> pleased to have been a partner in the development of the List and Web and
> will leave that as my legacy.
> The Internet tools we have established are one of the potentially useful
> means to overcome the growing financial demand on those involved in the
> development of the IBC. I have great doubts that these tools will ever be
> used to their full advantage as they need the support and involvement of
> the
> SEA membership to achieve their maximum performance benefits.
> I believe that the Listservice has come as far as it can without support
> and
> interaction from committee members and policy makers. As a founder of
> SEAINT, it was my intent to create a platform that would encourage other
> organizations to share their work. I am convinced at this was an
> unrealistic
> idealism and opponents are not willing to give up ground on the issues.
> I am also disappointed that the Lurkers on this List, who represent the
> majority of subscribers, allow their ambivalence to addressing important
> issues be used as a vote of acceptance to the position of those in power.
> I
> receive many private messages from those with strong opinions who simply
> do
> not want to make them public. I appreciate the confidence, but private
> confessions will do little to improve our profession.
> Policy makers thrive on silence as it is used to imply agreement or full
> support. If you are not willing to voice an opinion, consider your dues as
> a
> private way to demonstrate your support or dissatisfaction. Blindly
> renewing
> membership retards the growth of our profession and signifies approval to
> those who represent us.
> Residential Construction methodology
> My decision was influenced considerably by the recent posts from Peter
> Higgins and Chuck Greenlaw. Chucks comments hit home hard after three
> e-mail
> posts with Jay Crandell of NAHB to suggest that we start by raising the
> Conventional Framing standard while engineers work on simplifying the
> residential design methods ended in the age old pissing contest - engineer
> against builder. This argument confirmed that the Residential Structural
> Design Guide, as well written as it is, only iterates known problems and
> does little to suggest responsible solutions. If neither side is willing
> to
> sit down and discuss the problems then this document will remain a vessel
> of
> empty hope.
> The last year has been one of deep frustration for me. It has been a year
> of
> tolerance - waiting for wrongs to be corrected. However, almost a year
> later, the difficulties of correcting errors in the code process
> solidifies
> ambiguities and known errors to become a basis for design and acceptance
> of
> building offials. Mostly, the discontinuity between prescriptive and
> engineered solutions grows much larger as do the probability of increased
> lessening of performance of low and middle income homes. I can not, in
> good
> conscience financially support this manner of thinking.
> A debt of gratitude
> There are many on this list I would like to commend - but I would miss
> many
> who deserve recognition. I wish to simply state my appreciation to all of
> you who have made this listservice what it is today. Don't let anyone fool
> you - setting up and maintaining hardware does not make a Listservice. The
> success of this list would not be possible without the vocal minority -
> those of you who have spent so much time helping others and sharing your
> opinions. You members of the Listservice have made me a better engineer
> and
> you have my gratitude.
> New Endeavors
> My website is and will, buy July, have the
> professional site up and running. Here you will find many of the types of
> activities I enjoyed when writing SEAINT Online including software
> reviews,
> tutorials, and software development. Not all of it will be free, as I hope
> to be able to generate enough income to cover my time to maintain and add
> to
> the site.
> I also intend to continue to developed a commercial version of our public
> domain Lateral Design Spreadsheet. The Public Domain spreadsheet will
> always
> remain free and I hope many of you will join Dave Merrick in extending
> it's
> capabilities. I have joined up with a local friend, Structural Engineer
> Bronze Young, who will be rewriting the rigid diaphragm sections that
> David
> had worked on. I have agreed never to profit from the work of those who
> volunteered time and efforts on the Lateral Design Spreadsheet.
> I have considered this professional community as my family and my friends
> and I wish each and every one of you my warmest regards.
> Sincerely,
> Dennis S. Wish, PE
> Structural Engineering Consultant
> structures(--nospam--at) <mailto:structures(--nospam--at)>
> (208) 361-5447 E-Fax