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Re: Release of Calcs.

[Subject Prev][Subject Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next] Dear Mr. Kestner, et al:
Your 'disclaimer' is very comprehensive and impressive; however, as a consumer, if I saw that 'up front', I'd just freak out and find an engineer who didn't give me all that stuff.  On the other hand, I can see where there could be a lot of misuse of one engineer's efforts and protection is needed.  Maybe your disclaimer should be run by a legal counsel to ensure inclusion of 'protection'; and then run by the Engineering Board or professional organization in each state to make sure that everything they need is addressed; and lastly, run it by a consumer (like me? <smile>) to cut it down to one or two pithy statements of "Private Property--Unauthorized Use is Forbidden!"

audra ranous

Jim Kestner wrote:

Nels has brought up an excellent point that I think requires some consideration. Let's face it, none of us do "complete calculations", since experience has taught us in some instances what works and what doesn't. Additionally, the information, that is available after the construction is complete, may not have been available while we were designing.

With that in mind, I have put together a short disclaimer, using many of the excellent points that Nels made, for inclusion in calculations that are required to be given to Owners or others.

Here it is.......

These calculations are a partial record of the design and decision making process. These calculations are a brief shorthand methodology by the designer and it is likely that it is not totally complete in scope or detail.

These calculations and methods may not be necessarily precise, or even accurate in all circumstances-- depending on how gross or refined, the Engineer felt, the analysis needed to be for the particular situation. These calculations have not been edited for clarity and therefore may be easily misunderstood and misused by others.

Some of the information in these calculations may no longer be valid, since it is not uncommon to substitute materials, modify construction, change or add loads and modify the intended use of all or portions of buildings.

Much additional information, furnished by others, in both verbal and written form, is not included in these calculations. This information has been used the selection and evaluation of various components of this construction. Some of this information may include soils information, equipment sizes and loads, architectural requirements, building code requirements, owner?s needs, constructibility, engineered products, etc. Additional information may have come to light only during construction. Without this additional information plus all of the as built information, the use of these calculations, by other than the original Engineer of Record, is not recommended for evaluating various building components or the structure.

What do you think? Is this going overboard or would anyone even notice?

Jim Kestner, P.E.
Green Bay, Wi.