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It might be a bit overboard, but people will notice and some may even
complain.  But it is your design, not theirs, and it is the drawings that
are to reflect intent.  Not the calculations.
George Richards, P. E.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kestner [mailto:jkestner(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 3:24 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Release of Calcs.

Nels has brought up an excellent point that I think requires some
consideration. Let's face it, none of us do "complete calculations", since
experience has taught us in some instances what works and what doesn't.
Additionally, the information, that is available after the construction is
complete, may not have been available while we were designing. 

With that in mind, I have put together a short disclaimer, using many of the
excellent points that Nels made, for inclusion in calculations that are
required to be given to Owners or others. 

Here it is....... 

These calculations are a partial record of the design and decision making
process. These calculations are a brief shorthand methodology by the
designer and it is likely that it is not totally complete in scope or

These calculations and methods may not be necessarily precise, or even
accurate in all circumstances-- depending on how gross or refined, the
Engineer felt, the analysis needed to be for the particular situation. These
calculations have not been edited for clarity and therefore may be easily
misunderstood and misused by others. 

Some of the information in these calculations may no longer be valid, since
it is not uncommon to substitute materials, modify construction, change or
add loads and modify the intended use of all or portions of buildings. 

Much additional information, furnished by others, in both verbal and written
form, is not included in these calculations. This information has been used
the selection and evaluation of various components of this construction.
Some of this information may include soils information, equipment sizes and
loads, architectural requirements, building code requirements, owner's
needs, constructibility, engineered products, etc. Additional information
may have come to light only during construction. Without this additional
information plus all of the as built information, the use of these
calculations, by other than the original Engineer of Record, is not
recommended for evaluating various building components or the structure. 

What do you think? Is this going overboard or would anyone even notice? 

Jim Kestner, P.E. 
Green Bay, Wi. 

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