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I don't necessarily agree with outsourcing work overseas as being unethical.
As a design engineer, I'm constantly sending sketches and design drawings by
hand or in verbal format to my drafters who go through the detailed
coordination and geometry necessary for a functional set of working
drawings.

Once the drawings are completed, I work through them and check them.  Red
markups go back to the drafters for review.  After I while we develop a good
working relationship, where I know the drafter's weak spots and he mine.  We
feed off each other's strengths until the product is finished.

Now whether the job is drawn up in house, by contract,  farmed out down the
street or overseas is not as relevant.  At the end of the day, the design
engineer has to satisfy him/herself that the work is done well and that he
takes responsibility for it.  Public safety is not in question here, because
the same registered engineer is taking final responsibility for the design,
coordination and inspections for the job.

An engineer that finds a way to outsource the expensive part of the job to
be more competitive, even if that means outsourcing overseas is good
business - and that is very American.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian K. Smith <smithegr(--nospam--at)bellsouth.net>
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Date: Friday, July 28, 2000 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: Offshore Design


>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Crazy Al [mailto:crazy.al(--nospam--at)lycos.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 6:56 PM
>> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
>> Subject: Offshore Design
>>
>>
>> I have periodically received emails from companies in India and
>> Pakistan wanting to help us with the design.  I am aware of quite
>> a few CAD organizations which send their work abroad to get it
>> done at a cheaper and faster rate.  Ofcourse India is now know
>> for it computer programmers.  A popular structural software
>> package (STAAD) is supposed to be developed in India.  I have
>> even read that most doctors now use services abroad for voice to
>> text conversion
>>
>> I am trying to open up this topic about open market design with a
>> few questions:
>> 1.  How many companies are actually letting their projects
>> developed aborad?
>> 2.  How good is the design  - especially with differences in
>> codes and system of units?
>> 3.  How good are their prices?
>>
>> ---
>> - Crazy Al, P.E.
>
>About the only comments I have regarding this topic is that we are not
>clothes manufacturers, we don't make shoes, and we don't manufacture
>furniture.  We offer a service, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING.  Our duty, as
>outlined in the 11 or so states I am registered in is ".... to uphold the
>public safety and welfare."  Of course along the way we would like to make
>enough money to support our families and live comfortably.  But how can you
>do this if you are going to broker the design for someone else.  How will
>you be responsible?  Will you sign and seal the documents or let someone
you
>cannot see and have never met do this for you?  How can you justify to
>yourself that you have met the criteria of direct responsibilty?  What is
to
>stop your client from hiring them directly?  This type of practice is in my
>opinion both UNETHICAL and UNAMERICAN.
>
>
>Brian K. Smith, P.E.
>Louisiana
>
>
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