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Very well said.  As the son of an Industrial (manufacturing process)
Engineer who has lived and worked in several countries outside the US, I
concur in large part with your views.   I would add that your comments
regarding knowledge of local practices and methodology is equally valid even
for different regions within the US, and not just other countries.

Paul Feather
San Diego, Ca.

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Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 6:38 PM
Subject: RE: Offshore Design


>
>
> This is a very interesting issue. Traditionally in the Caribbean where I
> work, major engineering design projects were done and still are by
> American and British engineers. Most spend little or no time on the the
> Island to learn about the Construction capability of the Contractors and
> artisans and many are just incompetant low level staff put on a project
> in a Caribbean island where the client knows no better. The results are
> terrible in general, most of the projects are grossly overdesigned and
> inappropriate unless joint venture arrangements with local firms exist.
>
> Now that third world countries have developed engineering expertise to
> an extent that there is now an export capability, the same issues arise
> in reverse. Design is not just processing calculations and while I, as a
> Caribbean Engineer will be be able to analyse a structure and run
> Staadpro2000 and detail in accordance with UBC or ICBO2000 using Autocad
> 2000 , I certainly will need some familiarity with the local
> construction industry if I am to create cost effective structures
> anywhere in the world.
>
> But while using cheap semi-competant skilled offshore labour from the
> third world has its draw backs, it is far better than the Caribbean
> experience of expensive incompetant semi-skilled first-world labour. I
> must admit that corrupt politicians here in the Caribbean are largely
> responsible for this.
> The answer lies in the quality of the responsible local firm of
> engineers. If a responsible firm in the United States subcontracts part
> of the designs offshore, they must provide the conceptual design and the
> engineering parameters and thereafter take responsibilty for the
> drawings produced. If this is professionally done then the there should
> be quality problem. The problem is socio-economic and it will not go
> away.
> Many engineers in India ride bicycles to work and earn a salary  that is
> below the minimum wage in Europe and theU.S and are far more hardworking
> and knowedgeable than their first-world peers.
>
> When the global village becomes a reality and we get rid of "this is not
> American" or it is, we will grow to be engineers enriching the live of
> others by our skills and ablilities to the benefit of the world.Greed is
> our enemy.
>
> Mark Francois Engineer
>
>
>
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