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     My understanding is that the BAE exam will be offered in early 2001.  Is this still the case?  There are probably others on the list interested.

Greg


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From: Scott E Maxwell <smaxwell(--nospam--at)engin.umich.edu>
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Date: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: ASCE News Structural Community......


>I think you may not have too many problems with reciprocity if you get
>your Washington SE immediately after (or 2 years after once the new
>requirements kick in) you get your Washington PE.  The only state that I
>believe would present problems is California, but you will have that
>problem whether you wait 0 years or 20 years if the CA system stays the
>same.  The reason is that CA uses a different exam AND requires 3 years of
>experience AFTER you get your CA PE, if I recall correctly.
>
>You are correct about Illnois' method.  For a structural engineer, a PE
>license in Illinois is useless (unless you also want to practice civil
>engineering).  The SE act in Illinois is a practice act, which means to
>practice structural engineering in Illinois (i.e. to seal structural
>drawings _AND_ call yourself a structural engineer) you have to be a
>licensed SE. 
>
>A couple additional comments:
>
>1) I never had any trouble separating "civil" and "structural" experience.
>ALL my experience has been structural.  I can see that some may have the
>problem, though.
>
>2) I am not sure I agree with the statement that you "quote" from SEAW.
>That arguement can get out of hand if you extrapolate.  For example,
>structural engineering is a subset of building construction.  So, would
>that mean I should also have to get an AIA license, a PE electrical
>license, and a PE mechanical license in order to gain a basic
>understanding of those areas prior to getting a SE?  I would advise anyone
>who is not sure if they want to do structural engineering for the rest of
>their work career to make sure that they don't do something to prevent or
>make it more difficult for reciprocity for a "civil" PE.  However,
>personally I will never do general civil work (doesn't float my boat), so
>I don't see why should "have to" have a "civil" PE.  Now keep in mind that
>I DO have my civil PE because Michigan DOESN'T do the Structural I exam
>for the PE, so I took the civil NCEES test to obtain my Michigan PE
>license.  In otherwords, the civil PE in Michigan IS also the structural
>PE.
>
>Scott Maxwell, PE, SE
>
>On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Keith Fix wrote:
>
>> I prefer the two tier model of the western states to the separate licensing
>> that is required in Illinois (as I understand it).  It's a lot easier to
>> separate out "responsible charge" experience than to keep track of "civil" and
>> "structural" experience.  In general, I agree with the statements of the SEAW
>> regarding the place of structural engineering as a subset and specialization of
>> civil engineering that requires an understanding of the general principles of
>> the civil engineering profession at large.  For my part, I will wait about four
>> years from my PE to apply for my SE just to avoid any legal Catch-22 some state
>> might present.
>> 
>> --- Peter Lam <akaggie(--nospam--at)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > "Structural community begins to assess need for separate professional
>> > licensing and stronger academic credentials. Some of the foremost
>> > practitioners of the structural engineering profession have begun exploring
>> > the issue of separate licensing for their field. A group of about 50 leaders
>> > in the field of structural engineering examined various aspects of the
>> > complex subject at a summit meeting hosted in June by ASCE's Structural
>> > Engineering Institute (SEI) in Reston, Virginia, at the Society's world
>> > headquarters."  Welcome your comments on spearate (SE) professional
>> > licensing.
>> > 
>> > 
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