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Greg,

I have admit that you have got me...I have no clue what the "BAE" exam
is...

Scott Maxwell, PE, SE


On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Greg Smith wrote:

>      My understanding is that the BAE exam will be offered in early 2001.  Is this still the case?  There are probably others on the list interested.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott E Maxwell <smaxwell(--nospam--at)engin.umich.edu>
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> Date: Friday, September 08, 2000 10:46 AM
> Subject: Re: ASCE News Structural Community......
> 
> 
> >I think you may not have too many problems with reciprocity if you get
> >your Washington SE immediately after (or 2 years after once the new
> >requirements kick in) you get your Washington PE.  The only state that I
> >believe would present problems is California, but you will have that
> >problem whether you wait 0 years or 20 years if the CA system stays the
> >same.  The reason is that CA uses a different exam AND requires 3 years of
> >experience AFTER you get your CA PE, if I recall correctly.
> >
> >You are correct about Illnois' method.  For a structural engineer, a PE
> >license in Illinois is useless (unless you also want to practice civil
> >engineering).  The SE act in Illinois is a practice act, which means to
> >practice structural engineering in Illinois (i.e. to seal structural
> >drawings _AND_ call yourself a structural engineer) you have to be a
> >licensed SE. 
> >
> >A couple additional comments:
> >
> >1) I never had any trouble separating "civil" and "structural" experience.
> >ALL my experience has been structural.  I can see that some may have the
> >problem, though.
> >
> >2) I am not sure I agree with the statement that you "quote" from SEAW.
> >That arguement can get out of hand if you extrapolate.  For example,
> >structural engineering is a subset of building construction.  So, would
> >that mean I should also have to get an AIA license, a PE electrical
> >license, and a PE mechanical license in order to gain a basic
> >understanding of those areas prior to getting a SE?  I would advise anyone
> >who is not sure if they want to do structural engineering for the rest of
> >their work career to make sure that they don't do something to prevent or
> >make it more difficult for reciprocity for a "civil" PE.  However,
> >personally I will never do general civil work (doesn't float my boat), so
> >I don't see why should "have to" have a "civil" PE.  Now keep in mind that
> >I DO have my civil PE because Michigan DOESN'T do the Structural I exam
> >for the PE, so I took the civil NCEES test to obtain my Michigan PE
> >license.  In otherwords, the civil PE in Michigan IS also the structural
> >PE.
> >
> >Scott Maxwell, PE, SE
> >
> >On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Keith Fix wrote:
> >
> >> I prefer the two tier model of the western states to the separate licensing
> >> that is required in Illinois (as I understand it).  It's a lot easier to
> >> separate out "responsible charge" experience than to keep track of "civil" and
> >> "structural" experience.  In general, I agree with the statements of the SEAW
> >> regarding the place of structural engineering as a subset and specialization of
> >> civil engineering that requires an understanding of the general principles of
> >> the civil engineering profession at large.  For my part, I will wait about four
> >> years from my PE to apply for my SE just to avoid any legal Catch-22 some state
> >> might present.
> >> 
> >> --- Peter Lam <akaggie(--nospam--at)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > "Structural community begins to assess need for separate professional
> >> > licensing and stronger academic credentials. Some of the foremost
> >> > practitioners of the structural engineering profession have begun exploring
> >> > the issue of separate licensing for their field. A group of about 50 leaders
> >> > in the field of structural engineering examined various aspects of the
> >> > complex subject at a summit meeting hosted in June by ASCE's Structural
> >> > Engineering Institute (SEI) in Reston, Virginia, at the Society's world
> >> > headquarters."  Welcome your comments on spearate (SE) professional
> >> > licensing.
> >> > 
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