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I echo Jeff's, "keep it simple".  I would recommend the same for the
code(s).  One "good" lawsuit (like a good hand grenade in an enclosed
space), and we're all unemployable.

On certification...  My perception is that the problem area is not
engineering, but code interpretation.  We can't agree among ourselves on
code interpretation.  How can someone possibly pass an SE examination
unless he worked in close association with the "code preparers" and is
familar with their (apparently prejudicial) interpretations?

I know only one way to become "competent in all materials"...  Live a long

The "first principles" (Was that you, Harold?) haven't changed lately.  You
don't have to be expert in wood to design in wood.  Wood, BTW, is the most
difficult material I've designed, because properties differ so "wildly"
with different types (directions, etc.) of loading.  But you can design
with wood so long as you become familar with the materials.  

In the design office, you're not normally under the same time constraints
as on a formal exam.  We all can read.   And we can all ask questions.

Codes however...  Quoting Pogo (if any of you admit to being old enough to
remember him), "We have met the enemy, and he is us."

Fountain E. Conner, P.E.
Gulf Breeze, Fl. 32561


> From: Jeff Coronado <jcse(--nospam--at)>
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)
> Subject: Re: Certification of Structural Engineers
> Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:35 PM
> > Dennis,
> > 
> > On the SE exam in California, I believe you are only required to be
> > knowledgeable in 2 of the 4 materials tested to be able to achieve a
> > passing score.  It is such a bare minimum level of competency required,
> > that this is why I think people who are putting concrete and mechanical
> > equipment over other people's heads, should at least show this level of
> > competency.
> > 
> > As far as your friend who was an expert in one area and lacked
> > experience in others.  I understand the concern.  Maybe the solution is
> > to raise the bar up a little on the SE exam. 

> > I continue to suggest to keep it simple.  If you need to raise the bar
> > up a little bit so that SE means something, go for it.  The proposed 2
> > SE licenses now, with what will probably follow in the years to come,
> > multiple SE licenses, I am not crazy about.
> > 
> > Jeff Coronado, S.E.
> > West Covina, CA