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Hi  Dennis

Sorry for the late response ,I had some car trouble. I drive 210 miles a

I drive from Anaheim to Palmdale
each day , I follow the San Andreas fault from the Cajon pass to the
Palmdale Lake twice a day.

I guess you can say I am making sure that the fault dose not misbehave as I
drive by it twice a day and keep a close eye on it for a good 2 hours each

The form that you were asking about can be seen at:

In there click on

 "View the latest documents and development from the Los Angles Regional
Code program, including downloadable forms and guideline"

Then you will get the LARUCP site. Go down until you see "SP-1  it is
described as

 " the Interim alternate method for distribution of loads assuming flexible

This site can be linked to our site for reference.
Good luck 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis S. Wish [mailto:dennis.wish(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 6:00 PM
To: SEAINT Listservice
Cc: aec-residential(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: Light Gauge Steel - Full-Compliance Design

Thank you (and everyone) for the information. I did not get this project
(although my personal bias for high-end custom homes in the desert did me
more damage than my fee) but would like to pursue the discussion. You
mentioned the ST12 provision which I have read. This is similar to the
provisions published by the City of San Jose (which I posted on my website
at ). If L.A. City will allow me,
I will publish ST-12 on our website as well so that other jurisdictions can
review the document and recommend its support in their area or modify it to
meet their particular needs.

I can understand the advantages of using light-gauge for multi-residential
structures (although I have only heard of one other 5-story structure
designed with LG). As I recall, San Diego is a seismic zone 3. Is this one
of the reasons for allowing a 5-story Light Gauge structure?

Thanks again to all who have responded - I appreciate the fine help.
Dennis S. Wish, PE
The Structuralist Administrator for:
AEC-Residential Listservice
(208) 361-5447 E-Fax

From: Sid Danandeh <sdanandeh(--nospam--at)>
To: "'seaint(--nospam--at)'" <seaint(--nospam--at)>
Subject: RE: Light Gauge Steel - Full-Compliance Design


City of LA has a good reference advisory on residential steel construction
including energy design requirements , structural detailing etc.

Also Nabi Youssef's office is involved in designing a 5 story dormitory in
San Diego using light gauge steel. When I called them they were very helpful
. You may want to call them , they have tested several shear walls etc. just
for this purpose.

As you know the 1997 UBC's plywood shear wall values for light gauge have
limits i.e.  the steel to be gauge 20  and Nabie's office did tests to
overcome those limits.

Also most cities now accept the ST12. ST12 is the  structural advisory
bulletin  by the LA city and also adopted by the LA regional code committee
consisting of more then 50 cities in the LA region. That indicates that you
may assume flexible diaphragm distribution if you add 20 % to shear wall
values etc.

You can down load that from the LA regional code committee sites.

Also you can contact Nick Deliqudri SE. He is the head of research at the LA
city. I am sure he will give you copies of these documents. If it helps tell
him Sid from Palmdale referred you to him. His number is 1 818 756 7659.

good luck