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Martin and Dennis

This is more complicated than getting engineering for the least cost by
shipping it out of the USA.

The growth of a nations economy depends on having excellent technical talent
available to implement scientific knowledge. 

Young people will avoid entering a profession where job opportunities are
reduced; where wages are driven low because an MBA has forgotten that each
dollar spend here in the US generates $5 of economic activity here in the
US; and the performance of engineering has been reduced from an art to a
mechanical function.

Martin has stated that engineering is founded on three principles and I

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin W. Johnson [mailto:MWJ(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 8:06 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Foreign Labor issues

well said, Dennis (except for the apathy part).

Any MBA will tell you that it absolutely makes sense to use international
in order to improve your business advantage, that it is the essence of

However, MBA's do not understand the essential nature of the engineering
business.  Our business is founded on three principles:  technical
established relationships, and trust.  The heart of our business is
established relationships with core clients who place their trust in our
And this is completely counter to the concept of just "farming out work for
lowest price."  (and I wish more clients shared this attitude).

Speaking for myself, I cannot release that much control over designs that I
to seal, and I doubt if many others can as well.

regards, Martin