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- To: "SEAINT Listservice" <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
- Subject: Re: Posting in foreign languages
- From: "Dennis S. Wish" <dennis.wish(--nospam--at)gte.net>
- Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 10:36:46 -0700
Jeff Coronado Wrote: "From: Jeff Coronado <jcse(--nospam--at)flash.net> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org Subject: Re: Posting in foreign languages Ghassem, I have mixed feelings on this. There are valid arguements both ways. However, I can see where the list would become a turn off to a great number of people if this goes multi-linguo or whatever. A lot of people are already turned off by the list because everyday there are 50 e mails to scan and delete. Can you imagine posts running in 10 different languages. EVERYONE would be in the same situation. 200 e mails out of which maybe 50 are in languages any one person would understand. I would think this would be a turn off to english speakers, french speakers, spanish speakers, russian speakers... No one would be left. Perhaps the solution is for some of the other language speaking engineers to establish a list with their language and limit one of these list servers to english. Just please point me to that one. Jeff Coronado, S.E. West Covina, CA" Jeff, My comments are meant to be respectful - not intended to insult anyone. It never fails to amaze me when I hear an argument that mentions how people are "turned off" to a listservice because there are already so many posts. Nine years ago we didn't have even one professional forum for engineers to express their opinions and seek the advice of their peers. Today we have a List with somewhere between 10,000 and 15,000 engineers world wide with less than 0.04% who are active participants. This leaves 99.96% of the profession who simply "lurk". Approximately four years ago I instituted change on this forum to set a precedence where engineers from around the world feel more comfortable participating with peers on a public forum that was perceived to be only for California engineers. The fact remains that as a co-founder of this list, my intentions and those of the board members who supported my suggestion - including James Lai,SE (the president of SEAOSC at the time) - was to make this a public service without boundaries. SEA deserved the credit for its creation, but the on-going success of the listservice belongs to those who use it, not those who own the server. If the forum grows too large because the 99.96% of the profession decides to voice an opinion or involve themselves in discussions, or wish to see change in our profession - I would personally feel that the time and energy I invested in this List was well accomplished. If the list was flooded with Spanish, French, German, Chinese, Japanese, Russian or any of the worlds languages, then our responsibility would be to provide not only a dedicated forum or list for them, but a means to translate so that English speaking people and those outside the specific language can value from the opinion or answer the engineers questions or simply laugh at his or her humor. When will those on this list realize that the move toward International Building Codes not intended to launch the next war of who will control the code world. Just to set the record - I am a Chicago born second generation American who believes that we have a lot to learn from others outside this country. I would give anything to hear from the 99.96% of you who do not participate - at least on those issues that control the codes we follow or the future of our profession. There have been many important, albeit political, engineering issues placed on this site which were meant to encourage thought and fuel strong opinions. My disappointment is when 99.96% of you remain silent or feel that the only way to respond is privately where the policy makers can not hear you. So, my pledge is, if you can't speak your native tongue on this List, I will provide you a forum where you can. I only ask that you help me to make the translation into different languages sufficiently so others can benefit and become involved. I would like to set a goal of 0.04% lurkers and 99.96% professional engineers who have a strong interest in the future of the profession and in becoming better engineers in the process. Personally, I'm not afraid of my "Delete Key." Regards, Dennis S. Wish, PE The Structuralist Administrator - for an alternative, visit: http://www.structuralist.net AEC-Residential Listservice admin(--nospam--at)structuralist.net (208) 361-5447 E-Fax In a perfect world, I would hope that our participation level among professionals were much higher than 0.01% of the professional community world wide.
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