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I have a 20 person firm in Chicago.

I REQUIRE that ALL of my structural engineers (including ME) be adept at
AutoCAD. We have no "draftsmen", per se.

There are some very talented veteran "draftsmen" out there...don't get me

(I worked with many at SOM-Chicago...some were actually pretty good
(with no formal training, of course), in fact.

However, with so many colleges teaching CAD, we hire only CAD proficient
engineers out of school.
And even the experienced engineers we hire from overseas must know AutoCAD
PRIOR to joining us.

Consequently, my entire staff is capable of doing a complete project, DESIGN

It produces a much better product in the end and your young engineers learn
much more about how things are built (after they've drawn some details,

Its the only way to fly!

Good Luck,

David L. Fisher, SE,PE
Senior Principal
Fisher+Horos Structural Engineers
372 West Ontario
Chicago, Illinois 60610


-----Original Message-----
From: Khosrownia, Ghassem SPK [mailto:GKhosrownia(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:36 PM
To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)'
Subject: RE: construction Drawings

My suggestion is to learn to do it yourself. Drafting is an integral part of
engineering, and sometimes it is the most fun part of the design. Knowing
how to use CADD, especially, an engineer has many opportunities to try
various layouts before committing the one most suitable.

There will always be a conflict between drafters and engineers, especially
those structural-engineer-wished-to-be drafters....I have seen many of them
in my career.


-----Original Message-----
From: Francisco Duarte [mailto:fduarte(--nospam--at)LEASUNG.COM]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 11:08 AM
To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)'
Subject: construction Drawings

How do you feel about the Drafting Techniques displace by the CAD drafters
in your office?
How do you feel about the final drafted plans or the number of times you end
up red-marking drafting mistakes?
As for myself, My department have room for improvement. Most importantly,
What is the best way to try make the
drafters understand the importance of good drafting techniques or learn such
trade?  I always appreciated a senior drafter, now more than ever.

Thank for your comments.

F.Duarte, EIT