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Is this some local rule?  It sounds kind of like a typical area seperation
wall, except that the typical one would need 2 layers of gypboard and can be
breached if done properly.  You can typically interrupt the gypboard if you
use 5 1/2" (?) of solid blocking at that location in the wall.  This is also
interpretted as several thinner pieces placed against one another to equal
the same thickness.  Hence, you create a situation where the fire can get at
the wood, but needs to burn through a lot of it to get to the other side,
and this assembly has the same rating as the sheathed portion of the wall.
I have not heard of being barred entirely from bearing on an area separation
wall, so perhaps this is a local rule and my answer doens't apply?  Check
the code for the exact dimension, 5 1/2" was my guess based on looking it up
a year or two ago.  

Paul Crocker

-----Original Message-----
From: John Riley [mailto:jpriley485(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 7:20 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Ledger

For a 4-story, wood-framed, senior housing facility, the building official
requires that the stairways be sheathed with gypboard on the outside, one
layer of 5/8", and the gypboard cannot be interrupted by ledgers.  Neither
will he allow the floor joists to bear on the stairway walls.

Studs are 2x6, D.Fir-Larch(N), @ 16".  Load from each floor is about 1100

Can a ledger be lag-screwed or thru-bolted through the gypboard?  What I
have in mind is a single 2x12, D.Fir-Larch(N) with the floor joists attached
with Simpson hangers.

Are the values in UBC Table 23-III-B-1 applicable?  Modifiable?

Is there a better way to approach the problem?

John P. Riley, PE, SE
Riley Engineering
20 Oakwood Drive, Blue Grass, Iowa 52726
Tel & Fax:  319-381-3949