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Jim Lutz wrote:

>>I got my first ACI 318 manual free--also long, long ago, when it was a whole
lot thinner. The point I was making was that once upon a time the
manufacturers and trade associations subsidized the distribution of some of
these design materials (at least to college students back in the 60's)as a
form of advertising and public service. The philosophy has changed. Some
material suppliers now charge you for catalogs they used to give away. PCA
used to give away design guides they charge you for now, mostly because the
cement industry doesn't subsidize them the way they used to. 

I know you don't get something for nothing. My comments were more by way of
an observation on how material manufacturers have changed where they spend
their marketing dollars.<<

ACI also used to allow members one copy of *each* new standard free upon 
returning a clipped coupon from the ACI Journal.  PCA used to provide 
professionals with free copies of any of their publications in order to 
facilitate the design of projects using concrete.  Sweets used to provide 
free sets of their catalogs so that professionals would be able to have 
product information at their fingertips.  ASTM used to allow members to have 
three volumes of standards without cost, and a substantial discount for 
additional copies.  AISC seems to stand alone in not having provided free 
copies of their publications as a matter of practice.  The first AISC manual 
I got was in college, (it was required for the structural steel design 
course) and cost all of $4.50.  Except for one edition of the manual which 
was distributed by the Arizona Steel Erectors Association, I had to buy all 
the others.  U. S. Steel provided free copies of many valuable publications 
including the 2 volume "Building Design Data" and "Highway Structure Design 
Data" ring binder sets.  U. S. Steel, Bethlehem, and Armco provided free 
shapes properties booklets.

The attitude of trade associations used to be, "Let us provide you with 
information on our material so that you will specify it."  Now, it seems that 
the attitude is, "If you want to use our material, we will sell you 

A. Roger Turk, P.E.(Structural)
Tucson, Arizona