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Victor,

I would take Bill's offer and buy his book.  Below are a few other places
to try.  I have a copy of the Prkash and Puri book somewhere in storage and
I also found it not very practical for doing a complete design.  One thing
I especially like about the "Arya" book is that it provides a lot of go
by's and data for the input vibrations based on the type of equipment.
Equipment vendors are very hesitant (if not darn right stubborn) in
providing the unbalanced forces required for your design.  They often say
their machines are "perfectly" balanced.  There are also some very nice
example problems that can be made into MathCad or Excel spreadsheets.

Thomas Hunt, S.E.
Duke/Fluor Daniel

                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
 Arya, Suresh and Michael O'Neill, George Pincus:       
 Design of Structures and Foundations for Vibrating     
 Machines ; Gulf, 1984. Very good, Hardbound            
 (UR#:BOOKS018844I)  Offered for sale by TranceWorks at 
 US$120.00                                              
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
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 |------|"Arya, Suresh, Michael O'Neill, and George     
 Pincus": "Design of Structures and Foundations for     
 Vibrating Machines" ; "AB# 7193 Gulf Publishing Co.,   
 Houston, TX, 1984 191 pp. Book Condition: Hardbound -  
 Very good; D/J Condition: No d/j,as issued; Keywords:  
 Structural Design 4TH CLASS POSTAGE IS INCLUDED FOR    
 BOOKS SENT WITHIN THE 48 CONTIGUOUS STATES."   Offered 
 for sale by All Books Used & Rare at US$165.00         
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
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 |------|Arya, Suresh; O'Neill, Michael and George      
 Pincus: DESIGN OF STRUCTURES AND FOUNDATIONS FOR       
 VIBRATING MACHINES ; Houston: Gulf Publishing, 1979.   
 Reprint, Vg/No DJ, Hardback, Engineering               
 (UR#:FOURTH004664I)  Offered for sale by becker's      
 books at US$125.00                                     
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        




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Tom,

The book you recommended is out of print.  I did some extensive checking.
Do you know a source where I can get it?  How do you compare it with
"Foundation For Machines Analysis and Design, by Prkash and Puri", if you
are familiar with it?  This book seems a bit too much on the theoretical
side. Thanks.

Victor


>From: Tom.Hunt(--nospam--at)d-fd.com
>Reply-To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
>To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
>Subject: REF: HEAVY MACHINERY FOUNDATION
>Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:04:00 -0800
>
>Victor,
>
>For the best text on the subject I would highly recommend "Design of
>Structures and Foundations for Vibrating Machines" by Arya, O'Neill, and
>Pincus.  Computer programs such as RISA and STAADIII will not help since
>they do not do study state harmonics which is much different than seismic
>dynamic analysis.  SAP2000 and other programs can perform either the study
>state vibration analysis or you can do several time history analysis.
>Since you are in a building make sure your machine foundation is isolated
>from the building floor slab/foundations and not tied into any buiding
>columns.
>
>Thomas Hunt, S.E.
>Duke/Fluor Daniel
>
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>Mr. Richardson and Desi Kiss
>
>Thanks for valuable comments and advice from both of you.  The project is
>not yet underway and I have very few details available to go by.  I am
>beginning to collect information which will guide me thru the design
phase.
>Depending on the complexity, we may farm it out to a specialist as
>suggested.  As a primer, I found Chapter 1 with design examples in "Soil
>Dynamics, Deep Stabilization, and Special Geotechnical Construction  -
>Design Manual,  NAVFAC DM-7.3" interesting and straightforward.
>
>Regarding the softwares suggested, I do not have access to SAP2000 or
>ROBOT.
>   We have STAADIII, which may might do the job.  One of the first things
I
>have to do is to get dynamic properties from a geotechnical company and
>also
>establish design criteria from the equipment manufacturer and customer.
>
>Again, thanks for your help.
>
>Victor Lee
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