I stand corrected and appreciate the justification from our Canadian
brothers:o) As to your other questions, I will have to defer that to Shafat
as he is the Administrator of the List.
Dennis S. Wish, PE
From: Steven Mallett [mailto:smallett(--nospam--at)dillon.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:35 AM
Subject: Virus in Digest Form
I have to agree with Paul, my fellow Canadian. I receive the list in digest
form. When I attempted to open the message, I was warned by McAfee
Virus Protection Software that the message contained the
WScript/Kak.worm virus. It gives the option to clean or delete the
message, which I promptly deleted. This has happened twice in the last
Can the "list administrator" attempt to clean out the viruses before
release of the digest form?
Steven A. Mallett, P.Eng.
Dillon Consulting Ltd.
Halifax, Nova Scotia
From: "Structuralist" <dennis.wish(--nospam--at)gte.net>
Subject: RE: seaint Digest for 28 Jan 2001
Paul I am not so sure I agree with you as I had subscribed to the digest
into an HTML format or it will not be recognized and run. I did not see a
by the security upgrade to MS Outlook, however, I did notice that the
message was in HTML format, not ASCII.
I never received a digest List message that included HTML formatted text.
had received it in ASCII format with HTML coding in the message but the
did not activate as the message was sent in ASCII.
Not that I want you to send a virus, but I would be interested in having
send me a copy of the digest format List message which contains the
offending text so that I can see for myself if the security upgrade will
identify it (which would support your opinion that it will run while
ASCII editor and your argument is correct, the Script should activate the
moment that it is completed rather than after it is saved in HTML or a
format other than ASCII.
Just curious -not meant to be argumentative, but I would like to learn if
this is actually true!
From: Paul Ransom [mailto:ad026(--nospam--at)hwcn.org]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: seaint Digest for 28 Jan 2001
> From: "Structuralist" <dennis.wish(--nospam--at)gte.net>
> You are doing neither yourself or the professional community with
> communicate a service be leaving the list. You can, however, protect
> yourself from viruses sent to this list by simply subscribing in digest
> format. Rather than receive the original infected message, you receive
> compiled message minus all attachments in digest form. This will give
> the information you desire from the list without the threat of a virus.
Actually, no. All of the attachments are received in the digest format
as well. Your digest reader or OLMR may not display them and, in this
case, may not respond to them if it was Java enabled.
> best thing you can do is to upgrade your equipment so as to meet a
> standard for virus protection or refrain from downloading files or
> in anything other than text (ASCII) format. You should be able to
> settings on your browser or email program to receive in ASCII format
Typically, attachments are encoded in an ASCII format (it's a UNIX
legacy), or in the case of the recent virus, it was simply ASCII/Java(?)
code. Many mail viewers (e.g. MS OE) will display/run such attachments
by default. One needs to turn OFF the default (or not use products, with
80% market penetration, connected to the internet).
Paul Ransom, P. Eng.
Burlington, Ontario, Canada