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You must have just missed AISC's seminar last week.  We do the same type of
work.  So I asked your second question of the presenters.  The answer was to
specify ASTM A992 steel.  That A36 in WF series was no longer available
without special order.  This spec. included the requirements for A562 plus
some additional stuff.  To your first question, for OMF, column size was
unlimited, for SMF only WF 12x and 14x qualify.  We have discussed in our
office using SMF's in houses and see no reason not to, the additional costs
of testing being not that great.
George Richards, P.E.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Clark [mailto:bcinc(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 5:01 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: FEMA 350 and SMRF's

I have two questions regarding a SMRF and the new FEMA 350 guidelines. I am
designing a moment frame in a single family residential project, employing
an RBS (reduced beam section).  
First, FEMA requires cyclic testing of RBS moment frame connections on all
SMRF's.  Does anyone know of any tests done on sections from W10 to W18? I
know that these sizes are considered small for frames, but often in
residential construction I now find myself designing moment frames. Am I
limited to OMRF's?
Second, I don't have the new FEMA 350 guidelines, and a plan checker has
insisted that it specifies only A572 Grade 50 steel for all moment frame
beam and column connections.  I design all of my steel frame connections
with an increase in yield strength to grade 50 to compensate for the
expected yield stresses for A36 steel, but still specify A36. Does someone
have this publication?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Pat Clark, P.E.