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RE: Concrete: Shrinkage limit of .048?

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I have heard this from many suppliers all over the world.  And we always are
able to reduce the shrinkage.

Number 1 do ask the question of why you have the shrinkage requirement of
0.048%.  Secondly if the requirement is needed.  It is likely that it can be
obtained with the proper mix design.  There are many other variables that
can be controlled that contribute to shrinkage.

Where is this work being done?  I may be able to recommend someone that can
design a mix that can give you the performance that you need.  Let the
supplier pay a more competent mix designer.

Harold O. Sprague

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Joyce Fuss [SMTP:Joyce(--nospam--at)]
> Sent:	Wednesday, March 21, 2001 3:38 PM
> To:	SEAINT list (E-mail)
> Subject:	Concrete:  Shrinkage limit of .048?
> Our specifications call for shrinkage of concrete to not exceed .048% at
> 28
> days.  We have a project for which the supplier is saying he cannot meet
> that requirement because of the locally available aggregate-he is saying
> we
> will get .065%.  The supplier and the project are located at an elevation
> of
> about 6000 feet, so the cost to import the required aggregate is
> substantial.  The concrete is 3000 psi, subjected to potential freeze thaw
> conditions at the perimeter of the buildings.  
> I have been unable to locate the source of that shrinkage requirement, or
> any recommendations as to what is acceptable.   If anyone has any
> information or suggestions we would greatly appreciate your imput.
> Joyce Fuss
> Structural Engineer
> Lionakis Beaumont Design Group
> phone: (916)558-1900
> fax: (916)558-1919
> joyce(--nospam--at)