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I would like to preface this by saying that I know nothing about STIRLING 
LLOYD or their product, "Eliminator," so these comments do not specifically 
refer to that product.

Be *very cautious* about any spray-on/liquid product that is touted as a 
waterproofing agent.  Make sure that such a product *does not* contain 
calcium chloride or deleterious amounts of the chloride ion.

Thirty to thirty-five years ago a liquid waterproofing agent was specified by 
name for use in the Phoenix Plaza underground parking garage.  Serious 
distress resulted which caused the demise of one competent structural 
engineering firm and seriously affected the health of a prominent 
architectural firm.  The product was touted as a waterproofing agent, however 
the active ingredient in the product was, and still is, calcium chloride.  
That same product was recently mentioned in EN-R (12/4/2000) as being used in 
the P/S TTs that collapsed at the Charlotte (NC) Raceway.  The same scenario 
occurred in both instances:  the product was touted as a waterproofing agent; 
no mention was made of it containing calcium chloride.

I would suggest that if any liquid waterproofing agent is being considered, 
that you should get a chemical analysis of that agent and study it 
carefully.  I would also suggest that a specific statement from the 
manufacturer be obtained, signed in the original by a responsible executive, 
stating that the product does not contain calcium chloride or deleterious 
amounts of the chloride ion, or any other chemical which will cause corrosion 
of reinforcing steel.

A. Roger Turk, P.E.(Structural)
Tucson, Arizona

Gary Dinsmore wrote:

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STIRLING LLOYD produces a great spray-on waterproofing membrane for bridge
deck called "Eliminator".  I'm not sure if this is good for your application
but it sounds like its in the same vain.  If you want to talk to a rep., the
number is 203-230-9448.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Polhemus [SMTP:bill(--nospam--at)]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:22 AM
> To:   Seaint@Seaint. Org
> Subject:      QUERY: Protective Coatings for Concrete Structures
> Okay, I need some opinions.
> I've got an old (ca. 1964) "folded plate" concrete structure, not
> posttensioned, just formed, reinforced with mild steel and poured in
> place.
> The thing is a pavilion at a city park, circular in plan, with this weird
> "scalloped" roof that varies between about 6" thick at the radially-placed
> bents to about 3-1/2" at the midpoint between the bents.
> It looks like it did have some sort of "rubberized" coating system applied
> at one time, but that has just about gone away, at least on the top
> surface.
> There are some leaks beginning to form, some spalls on the underside. I
> think the thing needs to be cleaned up (get all the old coating junk off
> of
> it) and recoated, but I'm not sure what sort of system would be
> appropriate.
> Do any of you have experience with weather-proofing of large concrete
> surfaces of this type? Any pointers in that direction would be most
> appreciated.
> William L. Polhemus, Jr., P.E.
> Polhemus Engineering Company
> Katy, Texas
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