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Scott,
Are you using Sled Dog's?  Do you really yell "Mush" and what does it mean.
Also, how big is your Igloo (mine plugs into the dash of my car when I go
camping:o)

Dennis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haan, Scott M. [mailto:HaanSM(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us]
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:32 PM
> To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org'
> Subject: RE: AISC
>
>
> Forrest:
>
> I am going to go home, put on my buckskins and shoot my
> blackpowder rifle at
> black UN helicopters.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Scott M Haan P.E.
> Plan Review Engineer
> Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
> Development Services Department
> Municipality of Anchorage
> phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
> mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forrest Braun [mailto:fbraun(--nospam--at)bbfm.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 2:15 PM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: Re: AISC
>
>
> Scott
>
> You're kind of mixing things here a little.  There is a difference
> between a trade organization AISC, ASCE, ASTM, APA, AITC, ACI, SDI, SJI
> ad nausium (sp?), and manufacturers, Trusjoist McMillan, Vulcraft,
> Verco, Simpson that latin word above.  The manufacturer's will give
> their literature away so that we will specifiy thier product and they
> make thier money that way.  The associations only make money by selling
> thier information.  SDI and SJI manuals are not free.  Some support to
> underwrite the costs of publication may come from the associated
> manufacturers but not all.  AISC, for example, used to receive
> considerable support from the steel mills but due to the global economy
> and the large amount of foreign steel that support is greatly
> diminished.  Therefore, we the users of the end product need to pick up
> the costs formerly covered by industry.
>
> Of course, now that the IBC has included the various materials by
> reference and then modified various sections to suit thier own ideas of
> what is best, we the designers and plan reviewers must expend more funds
> to buy the IBC plus all of the referenced manuals.  Then we have to
> spend the extra time to annotate the manuals.
>
> Maybe Chicago have the right idea - pick a code and stay with it - kind
> of the Alaskan way - We don't care how they do it out side.
>
> "Haan, Scott M." wrote:
> >
> > I think it goes beyond who created the database.  If I wanted people to
> use
> > the material I was promoting I would help them design it easily.  It is
> like
> > I mentioned a couple e-mails back, bar joist load tables are free, steel
> > deck load tables are free, steel stud and joist load tables - design
> > properties are free, wood I-joist design guides are free, and everybody
> > knows how to calculate wood section properties and reinforcement areas.
> >
> > I am perfectly willing to buy a finite element modeling program
> that does
> > code checking with the cost of the database hidden in the
> price.  It just
> > seems that it would be useful in promoting steel design if the section
> > properties were free. Like the other dude said anyone who wants
> to spend a
> > day can type them in, but there will probably be a couple dozen
> errors.  I
> > have more time than money.
> >
> > If I get gouged an extra $200 when I pay my RISA maintenance agreement
> this
> > fall I now know where to complain to.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Scott M Haan P.E.
> > Plan Review Engineer
> > Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
> > Development Services Department
> > Municipality of Anchorage
> > phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
> > mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us
> >
>
> --
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Forrest T. Braun, P.E.
> BBFM Engineers, Inc.
> Ph (907)274-2236
> Fx (907)274-2520
> Anchorage, Alaska
> http://www.bbfm.com
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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