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Scott

My dear boy, you're going to get us in trouble yet. ;)

"Haan, Scott M." wrote:
> 
> PS. I prefer to snow machine in Denali National Park and through the calving
> grounds in ANWR. "I love the smell of caribou blood in the morning.  It
> smells like .... victory."
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haan, Scott M.
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 8:11 AM
> To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org'
> Subject: RE: AISC
> 
> My mother was an avid musher.  I was a dog slave when I lived at home.
> 
> Scott M Haan P.E.
> Plan Review Engineer
> Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
> Development Services Department
> Municipality of Anchorage
> phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
> mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Structuralist [mailto:dennis.wish(--nospam--at)gte.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:27 PM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: RE: AISC
> 
> Scott,
> Are you using Sled Dog's?  Do you really yell "Mush" and what does it mean.
> Also, how big is your Igloo (mine plugs into the dash of my car when I go
> camping:o)
> 
> Dennis
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Haan, Scott M. [mailto:HaanSM(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us]
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:32 PM
> > To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org'
> > Subject: RE: AISC
> >
> >
> > Forrest:
> >
> > I am going to go home, put on my buckskins and shoot my
> > blackpowder rifle at
> > black UN helicopters.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Scott M Haan P.E.
> > Plan Review Engineer
> > Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
> > Development Services Department
> > Municipality of Anchorage
> > phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
> > mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Forrest Braun [mailto:fbraun(--nospam--at)bbfm.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 2:15 PM
> > To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> > Subject: Re: AISC
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > You're kind of mixing things here a little.  There is a difference
> > between a trade organization AISC, ASCE, ASTM, APA, AITC, ACI, SDI, SJI
> > ad nausium (sp?), and manufacturers, Trusjoist McMillan, Vulcraft,
> > Verco, Simpson that latin word above.  The manufacturer's will give
> > their literature away so that we will specifiy thier product and they
> > make thier money that way.  The associations only make money by selling
> > thier information.  SDI and SJI manuals are not free.  Some support to
> > underwrite the costs of publication may come from the associated
> > manufacturers but not all.  AISC, for example, used to receive
> > considerable support from the steel mills but due to the global economy
> > and the large amount of foreign steel that support is greatly
> > diminished.  Therefore, we the users of the end product need to pick up
> > the costs formerly covered by industry.
> >
> > Of course, now that the IBC has included the various materials by
> > reference and then modified various sections to suit thier own ideas of
> > what is best, we the designers and plan reviewers must expend more funds
> > to buy the IBC plus all of the referenced manuals.  Then we have to
> > spend the extra time to annotate the manuals.
> >
> > Maybe Chicago have the right idea - pick a code and stay with it - kind
> > of the Alaskan way - We don't care how they do it out side.
> >
> > "Haan, Scott M." wrote:
> > >
> > > I think it goes beyond who created the database.  If I wanted people to
> > use
> > > the material I was promoting I would help them design it easily.  It is
> > like
> > > I mentioned a couple e-mails back, bar joist load tables are free, steel
> > > deck load tables are free, steel stud and joist load tables - design
> > > properties are free, wood I-joist design guides are free, and everybody
> > > knows how to calculate wood section properties and reinforcement areas.
> > >
> > > I am perfectly willing to buy a finite element modeling program
> > that does
> > > code checking with the cost of the database hidden in the
> > price.  It just
> > > seems that it would be useful in promoting steel design if the section
> > > properties were free. Like the other dude said anyone who wants
> > to spend a
> > > day can type them in, but there will probably be a couple dozen
> > errors.  I
> > > have more time than money.
> > >
> > > If I get gouged an extra $200 when I pay my RISA maintenance agreement
> > this
> > > fall I now know where to complain to.
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > >
> > > Scott M Haan P.E.
> > > Plan Review Engineer
> > > Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
> > > Development Services Department
> > > Municipality of Anchorage
> > > phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
> > > mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us
> > >
> >
> > --
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Forrest T. Braun, P.E.
> > BBFM Engineers, Inc.
> > Ph (907)274-2236
> > Fx (907)274-2520
> > Anchorage, Alaska
> > http://www.bbfm.com
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
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