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Forrest:

I used to cruise for babes in my mom's dog truck, and sometimes with the dog
sled strapped on top.  Just goes to show you some structural guys aren't
dorks.

Respectfully, 

Scott M Haan P.E.
Plan Review Engineer
Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
Development Services Department
Municipality of Anchorage
phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us



-----Original Message-----
From: Forrest Braun [mailto:fbraun(--nospam--at)bbfm.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:58 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: Re: AISC


And his house is a beauty too.  Two story white dome thing with attached
oversized kennel for 120 huskies and parking place for 10 sleds.

"Haan, Scott M." wrote:
> 
> My mother was an avid musher.  I was a dog slave when I lived at home.
> 
> Scott M Haan P.E.
> Plan Review Engineer
> Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
> Development Services Department
> Municipality of Anchorage
> phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
> mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Structuralist [mailto:dennis.wish(--nospam--at)gte.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:27 PM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: RE: AISC
> 
> Scott,
> Are you using Sled Dog's?  Do you really yell "Mush" and what does it
mean.
> Also, how big is your Igloo (mine plugs into the dash of my car when I go
> camping:o)
> 
> Dennis
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Haan, Scott M. [mailto:HaanSM(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us]
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:32 PM
> > To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org'
> > Subject: RE: AISC
> >
> >
> > Forrest:
> >
> > I am going to go home, put on my buckskins and shoot my
> > blackpowder rifle at
> > black UN helicopters.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Scott M Haan P.E.
> > Plan Review Engineer
> > Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
> > Development Services Department
> > Municipality of Anchorage
> > phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
> > mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Forrest Braun [mailto:fbraun(--nospam--at)bbfm.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 2:15 PM
> > To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> > Subject: Re: AISC
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > You're kind of mixing things here a little.  There is a difference
> > between a trade organization AISC, ASCE, ASTM, APA, AITC, ACI, SDI, SJI
> > ad nausium (sp?), and manufacturers, Trusjoist McMillan, Vulcraft,
> > Verco, Simpson that latin word above.  The manufacturer's will give
> > their literature away so that we will specifiy thier product and they
> > make thier money that way.  The associations only make money by selling
> > thier information.  SDI and SJI manuals are not free.  Some support to
> > underwrite the costs of publication may come from the associated
> > manufacturers but not all.  AISC, for example, used to receive
> > considerable support from the steel mills but due to the global economy
> > and the large amount of foreign steel that support is greatly
> > diminished.  Therefore, we the users of the end product need to pick up
> > the costs formerly covered by industry.
> >
> > Of course, now that the IBC has included the various materials by
> > reference and then modified various sections to suit thier own ideas of
> > what is best, we the designers and plan reviewers must expend more funds
> > to buy the IBC plus all of the referenced manuals.  Then we have to
> > spend the extra time to annotate the manuals.
> >
> > Maybe Chicago have the right idea - pick a code and stay with it - kind
> > of the Alaskan way - We don't care how they do it out side.
> >
> > "Haan, Scott M." wrote:
> > >
> > > I think it goes beyond who created the database.  If I wanted people
to
> > use
> > > the material I was promoting I would help them design it easily.  It
is
> > like
> > > I mentioned a couple e-mails back, bar joist load tables are free,
steel
> > > deck load tables are free, steel stud and joist load tables - design
> > > properties are free, wood I-joist design guides are free, and
everybody
> > > knows how to calculate wood section properties and reinforcement
areas.
> > >
> > > I am perfectly willing to buy a finite element modeling program
> > that does
> > > code checking with the cost of the database hidden in the
> > price.  It just
> > > seems that it would be useful in promoting steel design if the section
> > > properties were free. Like the other dude said anyone who wants
> > to spend a
> > > day can type them in, but there will probably be a couple dozen
> > errors.  I
> > > have more time than money.
> > >
> > > If I get gouged an extra $200 when I pay my RISA maintenance agreement
> > this
> > > fall I now know where to complain to.
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > >
> > > Scott M Haan P.E.
> > > Plan Review Engineer
> > > Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
> > > Development Services Department
> > > Municipality of Anchorage
> > > phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
> > > mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us
> > >
> >
> > --
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> > Forrest T. Braun, P.E.
> > BBFM Engineers, Inc.
> > Ph (907)274-2236
> > Fx (907)274-2520
> > Anchorage, Alaska
> > http://www.bbfm.com
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Forrest T. Braun, P.E.
BBFM Engineers, Inc.
Ph (907)274-2236
Fx (907)274-2520
Anchorage, Alaska
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