Well, that just seems silly
1. Are the equations in the
AISC Specifications protected? If I use them in a spreadsheet, then give
the spreadsheet to someone, am I liable?
2. Does AISC claim
copyright protection of bolt design values?
3. Are properties of
reinforcing steel protected by either ACI or CRSI?
4. Does AITC claim
copyright protection of all the data in their manual that I am unable to
5. What about the model
building codes? Are their data protected?
It has always been my
understanding that one could quote from a text if credit is
given. Has this become illegal?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 2:19
Subject: RE: AISC II (the facts)
According to the information AISC provided me, the answer is no, you
can not recreate the data. The radius of flange to web varies from mill
to mill and, according to AISC, the information from the mill is not
available to anyone other than AISC and this may be the
I think that it has not been tested legally and
this leads to a great deal of confusion. Personally, I would never
have purchased my AISC manual for the database alone. The values are too easy
to obtain through the software I use or from other sources. I purchased the
AISC manual for the technical information (as opposed to physical properties).
The database has no other real value to me other than a convenience
or use to create my own proprietary tools.
If AISC wanted to charge a reasonable price of
say $10.00 to provide a spreadsheet of Properties, I would not complain
as I would feel I am paying a reasonable price for that would save me the
trouble of copying the information manually. In the end, it is a question of
just how legal is their copyright on this information? Seem like a big waste
of time to argue about it when AISC would gain more appreciation from the
professional community than they would resentment. Is the revenue that AISC
makes on the database worth the harmful public relations that this issue has
One final note. I am not suggesting nor am I
condoning the use of intimidation. Nor am I suggesting that AISC use
intimidation in the form of legal threats against those who have obtained the
database and who are using it to either create design software, distribution
to public domain or for proprietary use. This is what leads to resentment and
accusations of "bashing". It is an issue that deserves a legal
interpretation by an impartial third party. This will do much to help resolve
the issue to the satisfaction of the majority - the professional practioners
who rely on the information.
Dennis S. Wish, PE
I'm sorry, I haven't followed
this thread closely. Can someone answer a couple of simple questions
1) Would it be legal
for me to type all the AISC info into my own
2) Would it be legal
for me to give that spreadsheet to a colleague?