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Dennis:

If your dogs can produce as much waste as huskies than they would probably
make great sledding dogs.

Respectfully,

Scott M Haan P.E.
Plan Review Engineer
Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
Development Services Department
Municipality of Anchorage
phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us



-----Original Message-----
From: Structuralist [mailto:dennis.wish(--nospam--at)gte.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:59 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: RE: AISC


Scott,
I have five large dogs (Lab/mastiff mix, Lab/rottweiler mix, Lab and two
golden retrievers). You gave me an idea. Think they could handle sand
sledding in the desert?

Dennis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haan, Scott M. [mailto:HaanSM(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us]
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 12:11 PM
> To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org'
> Subject: RE: AISC
>
>
> Forrest:
>
> I used to cruise for babes in my mom's dog truck, and sometimes
> with the dog
> sled strapped on top.  Just goes to show you some structural guys aren't
> dorks.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Scott M Haan P.E.
> Plan Review Engineer
> Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
> Development Services Department
> Municipality of Anchorage
> phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
> mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forrest Braun [mailto:fbraun(--nospam--at)bbfm.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:58 AM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: Re: AISC
>
>
> And his house is a beauty too.  Two story white dome thing with attached
> oversized kennel for 120 huskies and parking place for 10 sleds.
>
> "Haan, Scott M." wrote:
> >
> > My mother was an avid musher.  I was a dog slave when I lived at home.
> >
> > Scott M Haan P.E.
> > Plan Review Engineer
> > Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
> > Development Services Department
> > Municipality of Anchorage
> > phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
> > mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Structuralist [mailto:dennis.wish(--nospam--at)gte.net]
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:27 PM
> > To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> > Subject: RE: AISC
> >
> > Scott,
> > Are you using Sled Dog's?  Do you really yell "Mush" and what does it
> mean.
> > Also, how big is your Igloo (mine plugs into the dash of my car
> when I go
> > camping:o)
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Haan, Scott M. [mailto:HaanSM(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 4:32 PM
> > > To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org'
> > > Subject: RE: AISC
> > >
> > >
> > > Forrest:
> > >
> > > I am going to go home, put on my buckskins and shoot my
> > > blackpowder rifle at
> > > black UN helicopters.
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > >
> > > Scott M Haan P.E.
> > > Plan Review Engineer
> > > Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
> > > Development Services Department
> > > Municipality of Anchorage
> > > phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
> > > mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Forrest Braun [mailto:fbraun(--nospam--at)bbfm.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 2:15 PM
> > > To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> > > Subject: Re: AISC
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > You're kind of mixing things here a little.  There is a difference
> > > between a trade organization AISC, ASCE, ASTM, APA, AITC,
> ACI, SDI, SJI
> > > ad nausium (sp?), and manufacturers, Trusjoist McMillan, Vulcraft,
> > > Verco, Simpson that latin word above.  The manufacturer's will give
> > > their literature away so that we will specifiy thier product and they
> > > make thier money that way.  The associations only make money
> by selling
> > > thier information.  SDI and SJI manuals are not free.  Some support to
> > > underwrite the costs of publication may come from the associated
> > > manufacturers but not all.  AISC, for example, used to receive
> > > considerable support from the steel mills but due to the
> global economy
> > > and the large amount of foreign steel that support is greatly
> > > diminished.  Therefore, we the users of the end product need
> to pick up
> > > the costs formerly covered by industry.
> > >
> > > Of course, now that the IBC has included the various materials by
> > > reference and then modified various sections to suit thier
> own ideas of
> > > what is best, we the designers and plan reviewers must expend
> more funds
> > > to buy the IBC plus all of the referenced manuals.  Then we have to
> > > spend the extra time to annotate the manuals.
> > >
> > > Maybe Chicago have the right idea - pick a code and stay with
> it - kind
> > > of the Alaskan way - We don't care how they do it out side.
> > >
> > > "Haan, Scott M." wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think it goes beyond who created the database.  If I wanted people
> to
> > > use
> > > > the material I was promoting I would help them design it easily.  It
> is
> > > like
> > > > I mentioned a couple e-mails back, bar joist load tables are free,
> steel
> > > > deck load tables are free, steel stud and joist load tables - design
> > > > properties are free, wood I-joist design guides are free, and
> everybody
> > > > knows how to calculate wood section properties and reinforcement
> areas.
> > > >
> > > > I am perfectly willing to buy a finite element modeling program
> > > that does
> > > > code checking with the cost of the database hidden in the
> > > price.  It just
> > > > seems that it would be useful in promoting steel design if
> the section
> > > > properties were free. Like the other dude said anyone who wants
> > > to spend a
> > > > day can type them in, but there will probably be a couple dozen
> > > errors.  I
> > > > have more time than money.
> > > >
> > > > If I get gouged an extra $200 when I pay my RISA
> maintenance agreement
> > > this
> > > > fall I now know where to complain to.
> > > >
> > > > Respectfully,
> > > >
> > > > Scott M Haan P.E.
> > > > Plan Review Engineer
> > > > Building Safety Division http://www.muni.org/building
> > > > Development Services Department
> > > > Municipality of Anchorage
> > > > phone:907-343-8183  fax:907-249-7399
> > > > mailto:haansm(--nospam--at)ci.anchorage.ak.us
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Forrest T. Braun, P.E.
> > > BBFM Engineers, Inc.
> > > Ph (907)274-2236
> > > Fx (907)274-2520
> > > Anchorage, Alaska
> > > http://www.bbfm.com
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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