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Thru math, i've always known that i wouldn't be able to make as much money
as some bozo executive or tradesman.  I present to you, my fellow SEs, the
mathematical proof to clarify this whole discussion:

Postulate #1:  Knowledge is Power
Postulate #2:  Time is Money

We all know that:   Work/Time = Power.   And since Knowledge=Power and
Time=Money (Postulate#1 & #2, above), we have:

(Work/Money)=Knowledge

Solving for Money, we get:  (Work/Knowledge) = Money

Therefore, as Knowledge approaches zero, Money approaches infinity
regardless of the work done.  The less Knowledge you posses, the more Money
you make.

:-)

Alden Manipula
Structural E.I.T.
www.novagroupinc.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Richards, P.E." <george(--nospam--at)BORM.com>
To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: Engineering compensation


> Gentlemen:
>
> I posted the comment about the $60,000 framer for the same reason that it
> was posted that a plumber makes more than an engineer; to illustrate what
is
> a general inequity in an engineer's pay.
>
> Ask yourselves what are you hourly billing rates.  Are they as high as
those
> of lawyers in your area?  If they are not even close then perhaps you are
> cheating yourselves, your employees, and your families.
>
> When I design a retaining wall on Enercalc, it takes me 5 minutes to run
the
> calculations.  We do not charge for five minutes.  We charge for the
> education, training, and experience we have as well as for the fact that
we
> are accepting responsibility for a 1000 feet of wall.  We detail the crap
> out of the wall and charge $0000.00.
>
> I dream of what I call the  SIX PERCENT SOLUTION.  The EOR should get 6%
of
> the value of the project for his services, for being responsible for the
> health, safety and welfare of the public.  Is 6% not what the uneducated
> real-estate salesman will get each time he moves the place?
>
> It starts with each of us to say we really are worth more to society than
we
> have been asking for in the past.
>
> George Richards
>
>
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