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From: Christopher Wright <chrisw(--nospam--at)skypoint.com>
To: SEAOC Newsletter <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 5:11 PM
Subject: RE: Engineering compensation
> >I posted the comment about the $60,000 framer for the same reason that it
> >was posted that a plumber makes more than an engineer; to illustrate what
> >a general inequity in an engineer's pay.
> First, what we pay for a plumber should be compared with what our clients
> pay for an hour of engineering time. As I recollect the rule of thumb is
> 3x salary plus whatever additional overhead gets tacked on to support
> non-billable salaried people. I expect when you compare salaries or AGI
> with bennies added in rather than billing rates for plumbers against your
> take home, you'll get a little different picture.
> Second, why should a master plumber make less (or more) than an engineer?
> Look who makes money in the US--CEO's, athletes, movie stars, talking
> heads and people who get commissions for selling someone else's work,
> irrespective of what they actually contribute. Even if engineering were
> inherently more valuable than plumbing (or welding or nursing or
> teaching) we don't pay people for what they contribute in the US. I hear
> this is just the invisible hand of the marketplace, but I suspect it's
> the invisible hand of Darwin teaching us the lesson it taught the dodo
> and the wooly mammoth.
> I finally found the original version of this on a plumbing web site, not
> a philosophy site--
> "The society that scorns excellence in plumbing just because plumbing is
> a humble activity, and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because it is
> an exalted activity, will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy.
> Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water." - John William
> Christopher Wright P.E. |"They couldn't hit an elephant from
> chrisw(--nospam--at)skypoint.com | this distance" (last words of Gen.
> ___________________________| John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania 1864)
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