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Many of us remember the numerous residential garages supporting a 2nd
story, that became one story houses with no garages after San Fernando. Try
to talk to the owner of one of these places that is still standing, where
there are two bedrooms with his young kids.  My experience is that they
won't listen.

Neil Moore, S.E.
neil moore and associates
shingle springs, california

At 10:44 PM 6/13/2001 -0700, sscholl2(--nospam--at) wrote:
>The bolts on the steel frame in the 3 story less than 10 yr. old Santa
>Clarita City Hall "blew apart"- many were found on the opposite side of
>the building. The building almost collapsed, as did several others. This
>was more than 15 miles from the epicenter of the '94 Northridge event.
>With regard to calcs., I am working on a light rail project where all the
>structures have two independent sets of calcs.- one by in-house engineers
>and the other by a consultant who has no contact with the in-house
>designers. In Calif. in most jurisdictions, calcs are required for all
>houses and even residential garages. It just makes more work for us for
>which we are grateful.
>Stan Scholl, P.E.
>Laguna Beach, CA
>On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 13:09:23 -0500 "Bill Polhemus" <bill(--nospam--at)>
>> Aside from the Murrah Building, I'm at a loss as to what "blown apart
>> structures" you might be refering to.
>> William L. Polhemus, Jr., P.E.
>> Polhemus Engineering Company
>> Katy, Texas
>> Phone 281-492-2251
>> Fax 281-492-8203
>>   -----Original Message-----
>>   From: Neil Moore [mailto:nmoore(--nospam--at)]
>>   Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:12 PM
>>   To: seaint(--nospam--at); 'seaint(--nospam--at)'
>>   Stan:
>>   May this attitude is why we see so many blown apart structures in 
>> the
>> eastern side of the country.

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