You don't have control over the contractor's operations. If you *dictate*
the shoring design, it opens the owner up for extras.
I will design the contractor's shoring, but he has to hire me to do it. I
will coordinate with him on the method he would like to use, and we will
agree on an acceptable design.
You *did* say design-build. If you're working for the contractor in a
direct-bill basis, I'd say it's okay, but you still need to coordinate
closely with him. If you're hard-money, it's a contractor function -- He
has to pay someone to design the shoring, in either case.
Fountain E. Conner, P.E.
Gulf Breeze, Fl. 32561
> From: Michael Zaitz <mzaitz(--nospam--at)hgbd.com>
> To: Structural Engineers Association <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> Subject: Shoring Responsibility
> Date: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 6:53 AM
> Morning all;
> What is the responsibility of the engineer and the contractor for
> shoring (design-bid-build job). I have a school that we are removing an
> existing loadbearing wall. Bar joists currently bear on the wall and
> the wall will be replaced with a post and beam system. The issue of the
> shoring has come up and we are trying to decide if that is the
> contractors responsibility, our responsibility or both. As I do not
> know the contractors method for installation and other important items I
> would say that how he shores it is up to him. The contractor has
> indicated that it is our responsibility to provide him with locations
> and the loads (I did not have this conversation with him, another
> engineer in our office did) and then he will design the shoring. Is
> this correct? I have never heard of this before (only been in this
> business for 7 years). I have done shoring but only when directly hired
> by the contractor. Anytime it is part of a bid job we say to shore the
> structure. Anyplace that I can find more out about this?
* This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers
* Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. To
* subscribe (no fee) or UnSubscribe, please go to:
* Questions to seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org. Remember, any email you
* send to the list is public domain and may be re-posted
* without your permission. Make sure you visit our web
* site at: http://www.seaint.org