agree with your last paragraph, but would have preferred if you had not posted
your opinion. Please don't misunderstand, you are welcome to your opinion, but
while you are telling everyone the list that is not an appropriate place to
discuss the issue, you seek to get the last word in. This frustrates readers and
perpetuates the discussion. I happen to be one who disagrees with you, but I
don't care to get into a discussion - especially since we learned numerous times
over the last several years how heated the discussions get.
was in business, I learned that there are two topics you don't ever discuss in
mixed company; Politics and Religion. There are no answers and if there were,
none of them will ever be accepted as the opposition is strong, and there will
always be those who think otherwise. Most people are not willing to invest the
time it takes to bring an idea to fruition. Furthermore, the majority are
apathetic and simply don't care. With this type of odds against either side -
the potential for success of any idea is extremely low.
is one thing that we can agree - we agree that an engineering forum is not an
appropriate place to discuss these issues. However, I'm sure there are
others who disagree.
S. Wish, PE
-----Original Message----- From:
JohnOttCE(--nospam--at)aol.com [mailto:JohnOttCE(--nospam--at)aol.com] Sent: Saturday, June
23, 2001 8:49 AM To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org' Subject: Greed
are only two things to consider when looking at the way society (and
First: Everyone is greedy to a degree (Some more,
some less) and it is greed that motivates our society and makes this
country the greatest in the world.
Second: Our economy and decisions
of everyone is based on the principle that "No one does anything without a
The energy crisis will never be solved without coming to
grips with the above principles that govern nearly every thing in our
society. With price caps (Be them hard or soft) will only slow (or
possibly stop) the development of new energy sources (Be it new generator
plants, or new sources of energy).
President Bush was correct in
declaring the problems in California did not warrant any response from the
Federal government. Let the economy dictate and the prices will rise to
meet at a point where the supply will match the demand. This was altered
when California decided that there should be a free market for wholesale
electricity prices and a regulated market for the consumer.
poor electricity user (you and me) don't want to pay the price for the
electricity that we "need" at a price that will motivate investors to
construct new facilities to generate electricity. So by our actions we
will eventually have no electricity for our "needs".
It is simply
economics at play and we as engineers are not about to solve it by
cluttering up this list server with items that are not part of what this
list server is supposed to be about. Please leave economics to economists
and engineering to engineers.