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- From: ad026(--nospam--at)hwcn.org (Paul Ransom)
- Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 12:31:07 -0400
> From: Christopher Wright <chrisw(--nospam--at)skypoint.com> > Most people in the US (probably a lot on this list) don't realize how big > a sacrifice the Brits and the rest of the allies made in WWII. > Country Military Civilian Total > Soviet Union* 8,668,000 16,900,000 25,568,000 > China 1,324,000 10,000,000 11,324,000 > Germany 3,250,000 3,810,000 7,060,000 > Poland 850,000 6,000,000 6,850,000 > Japan 1,506,000 300,000 1,806,000 > Yugoslavia 300,000 1,400,000 1,700,000 > Rumania* 520,000 465,000 985,000 > France* 340,000 470,000 810,000 > Hungary* 750,000 > Austria 380,000 145,000 525,000 > Greece* 520,000 > Italy 330,000 80,000 410,000 > Czechoslovakia 400,000 > Great Britain 326,000 62,000 388,000 > USA 295,000 295,000 > > Which is not to discount what the US did, just to point out that our > infernal ignorance of what everyone else did is so outrageous that it's > no wonder some think we do it on purpose. > > Christopher Wright P.E. |"They couldn't hit an elephant from It is easy to blame the education system for missing events and distorted facts in history but it is difficult to tell everybody's side in the same classroom, without access to other sides of the story, when a generation is reluctant to talk (or trying to forget) and the reality is tied up by secrecy laws. I just have to chuckle a bit, here: With all the chatter about historical context and education AND with the recent brouhaha in Canada when President Bush neglected to mention Canada as a friend in the fight against terrorism, the list neglects to mention the losses by Canada, among others, which were also considerable. During WWII, Canada developed the 3rd largest global naval force to transport, protect and attack. Bedford Basin at Halifax, NS became the major staging area for North Atlantic convoys. Losses were suffered, by U-boat attack, outside these harbours and as far "inland" as the St. Lawrence River. I'm certain that the same happened at US harbours, as well. Yes, the European war WAS on the doorstep of North America. Canada's land forces suffered massive casualties in pivotal conflicts and are recognized with monuments, and the attendant graveyards, throughout Europe. There is a reason for the special bond between Netherlands and Canada, possibly because we had provided safe haven for many of the Dutch royal family; Canada's forces, although not exclusively engaged there, were assigned to liberate Holland. Ottawa is still bedecked in Tulips every spring. Just this week, I received from the CSCE, a historical profile of the nearly 90 air training bases that were built in Canada, in 3 years during WWII, to train international air forces - as well as the women who ferried aircraft from Canada to Europe. Many of these airports have become major air transportation hubs (Vancouver Int'l, Toronto - Pearson Int'l, Montreal-Dorval Int'l). We are in the process of plaquing these sites as Civil Engineering monuments. However, a plaque does not provide context to the casual observer. Covert electronic surveillance services, inititated during WWII, are still a major part of our support to NATO. Most Canadians are unaware of these operations and, understandably, nobody is making "Canadian minute" commercials to inform. As Christopher points out, many countries had many roles in the war. Most were weary and brutalized when the US took overt action in Europe. As well, Canadians are no more knowledgeable of these realities than are Americans of theirs. However, liberated regions remember and teach. The knowledge and appreciation are not forgotten, regardless of the insignia on the tank. I was fortunate to make some friends in Russia, who explained why so much of their popular culture was still influenced by WWII era. Regardless of the political factors, the conflict had a very profound effect on so many - look at the numbers, above. Look at them, again. Movies such as Patton cannot be blamed for what they misrepresent or fail to tell. They are no substitute for a good history lesson. They form a part of why the rest of the world is nervous about the "export of US culture" but, we rely on Hollywood to entertain us with the glamour, excitement and ego of characters who pack pearl handled six-shooters. We, in North America, rarely see the non-english language films that show other perspectives ("Life is Beautiful", comes to mind). I am thankful that my father returned from duty on HMCS Eyebright and that my in-laws survived the German occupation and bombing of Rotterdam to emigrate to Canada. The real classroom is in my livingroom and the homes of similar families in every country. -- Paul Ransom, P. Eng. Civil/Structural/Project/International Burlington, Ontario, Canada <mailto:ad026(--nospam--at)hwcn.org> <http://www.hwcn.org/~ad026/civil.html> ******* ****** ******* ******** ******* ******* ******* *** * Read list FAQ at: http://www.seaint.org/list_FAQ.asp * * This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers * Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. 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