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The other option is to require submittals on the nails and staples and
gun that will be used on the site.  This way you will have the chance to
either modify the nail spacing or reject the submittal as not in
compliance as conditions warrent.  Having the submittal will also give
your IBC special inspector leverage in the field for compliance with
your requirements.

It appears that most gun manufacturers produce their own nails not
necessarily in conformance with conventional common nail sizes and not
necessarily the same between the manufacturers.

> "Nels Roselund, SE" wrote:
> George,
> I find nail sizes on the job are difficult to control.  A framer was
> using nails that were specified to be 16d commons.  I could tell by
> the head size of installed nails that they were not 16d commons --
> they looked like 8d commons.  I challenged the framer about it.  He
> showed me the box they were in [a box of about 15# of nails] -- it was
> labeled 16d common.  I don't know what they really are, but they are
> the diameter of an 8d common nail [0.131"], and 3-1/4" long instead of
> 3-1/2".  The actual diameter and length were printed on the box under
> the label "16d Common".  The framer "knew" that he was using what was
> specified -- not because of the size notations, but because the box
> said "16d Common".
> I'm thinking of requiring that a board that displays a specimen of the
> actual nail of each specified size be submitted to the Engineer prior
> to beginning construction -- after my review and acceptance, the board
> would be set up on the site to be used to compare a nail with the
> acceptable standard for each structural nail size.  Has anyone tried
> this?
> Fasteners for wood construction are a big problem -- in addition to
> nails, wood screws and lag screws listed in the NDS seem to be
> impossible to find on the supplier's shelf, and, if apparently
> found, impossible to verify on the job.  I specify the Simpson SDS1/4
> screws whenever practical -- at least you know what you are
> specifying, the ICBO ES report makes clear what the allowable values
> are for just about any application, and they can be identified after
> installation.  But at $0.75 + per screw they are pretty pricey.
> How are you guys and gals handling this wood fastener business?
> Nels Roselund
> Structural Engineer
> South San Gabriel, CA
> njineer(--nospam--at)

Forrest T. Braun, P.E.
BBFM Engineers, Inc.
Ph (907)274-2236
Fx (907)274-2520
Anchorage, Alaska

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