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I tried to keep quiet on this thread, but . . .

While the UW may contribute funds to many organizations whose activities I
agree with, it also funds many organizations whose activities I find
absolutely abhorrent.  I applaud those who take the time and effort to
direct their charitable givings to specifiic worthy organizations rather
than give blindly to UW.

M. David Finley, P.E.
Lake City, FL  32025

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Green" <egreen(--nospam--at)exponent.com>
To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: OFF TOPIC: United Way


> Stan,
>
> First a conflict of interest disclosure: My wife is a senior manager of
the
> second largest
> recipient of UW dollars in the Houston area. OTOH, this means I am very
> familiar with how
> UW works.
>
> Let's review the facts:
>
> 1) The Sep 11th Fund was established by the New York United Way (in
> conjunction with
>    others).
> 2) The Sep 11th Fund provided money to the Legal Aid Society. This money
was
> to be used
>    to help the victims of the Sep 11th Attack.
> 3) The Legal Aid Society is not controlled by the United Way of New York.
> The is no
>    connection at all between the Sep 11 Fund (or the Legal Aid Society)
and
> the UW of
>    North Texas.
> 4) The Legal Aid Society spent some of the money on questionable purposes
> (Questionable,
>    as in the spending may be justified. If the men in question are
innocent,
> it seems to
>    me they are victims of the attack as much as anyone else. And I assume
> Stan, you
>    support to US Constitution: innocent till proven guilty).
> 5) The United Way of New York has not commented on way or the other about
> this use of funds
>    and in fact may be outraged about this (on the other hand, maybe they
are
> not, I'm not
>    until I hear more details).
> 6) As a result of this, you are no longer going to give to the United Way
of
> North Texas,
>    which has NO connection to the United Way of New York, except for the
> name is similar.
>
> While the UW has made mistakes, and I am sure they will make more, they
are
> a great agency and they do good things for people. When your firm makes a
> mistake, do you tell the client, please never use us again, as even one
> mistake is unacceptable and unforgivable? I know you do not, and you
> shouldn't, as your firm does great work, and everyone makes mistakes. Am I
> missing something? Please explain.
>
> BTW, I am sure the UW is pleased about your past donations and I hope they
> continue after you reflect on the reality of this incident and its
> connection (or more accurately lack of connection) to your local agency..
>
> Eric Green
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Caldwell, Stan [mailto:scaldwell(--nospam--at)halff.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:56 PM
> To: 'SEAINT Listserv'
> Subject: OFF TOPIC: United Way
>
>
> Just a few weeks ago, my firm completed it's annual United Way campaign.
I
> contributed generously.  Never again!
>
>
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200111\NAT2001110
> 8e.html
>
<http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200111\NAT200111
> 08e.html>
>
> Okay y'all, now get back to work.
>
> Regards,
>
> Stan R. Caldwell, P.E.
> Latitude:   32.867320
> Longitude:-96.787534
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Give war a chance!"
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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