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It has been around so long that its shown up in Dilbert.  (Hint: Ratbert's bank is a sock behind his dryer.)  Maybe Scott Adams will make it a reoccurring theme.


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Moore <nmoore(--nospam--at)innercite.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 13:58:21 -0800
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: RE: A588 Steel.


> Actually this scam has been around for years - even before the internet.
> It used to come in the mail to you.  Years ago we had a project in Nigeria
> and we even sent an engineer over.  What a diaster!   The Stateside client
> went belly up and we had to call back our employee.  At least he had a
> ticket home.
> 
> Neil Moore, S.E.
> neil moore and associates
> consulting structural engineers
> 
> 
> At 02:56 PM 11/26/2001 -0600, you wrote:
> >Nick,
> >
> >Take a look at the ASME STS-1-1992 "Steel Stacks".  There is an update
> >scheduled to be out soon.  They build steel stacks out of all kinds of steel
> >including regular carbon steel.  They provide for a corrosion allowance,
> >coatings, stainless, etc. for all ranges of temperatures and corrosives.
> >They also consider A 588 steel.  It is worth a look at what the steel stack
> >people do for corrosion in high temperature applications.  
> >
> >A 588 wide flange shapes are not exactly off the shelf.  A 588 plate steel
> >is more commonly available than rolled shapes.  If you do use A 588, you
> >might find it cheaper and easier to use a plate girder.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Harold O. Sprague
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:	npitera(--nospam--at)mmm.com [SMTP:npitera(--nospam--at)mmm.com]
> >> Sent:	Monday, November 26, 2001 1:57 PM
> >> To:	seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> >> Subject:	Re: A588 Steel.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Thanks for all the responses. I truly appreciate the comments.
> >> Aesthetics are not my concern.
> >> 
> >> Perhaps I should have clarified my logic for using A588. I have an
> >> Industrial
> >> high temperature ( runs at 500 degrees F when things are working right)
> >> environmental "oven" that is made of A588 steel. The company that made the
> >> "oven" went belly up. There is a steel beam 21'-0" long inside the oven
> >> that
> >> needs structural reinforcing due to new loading conditions. My first
> >> choice is
> >> to place a sister beam to help carry the load if it is physically
> >> possible. The
> >> oven is basically a row of steel canisters 21'-0" in diameter and about
> >> 40'-0"
> >> tall.
> >> 
> >> I prefer to use A588 steel if possible. My concerns are welding A588 steel
> >> ( end
> >> clip plates and lateral bracing to the adjacent A588 beam) and
> >> availability of
> >> wide flange sections in A588 steel.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> 
> >> Nick Pitera
> >> 
> >> 
> >
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